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em1LL

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Strange accidents in public places
« on: May 20, 2016, 02:48:18 am »

I had two strange cases in my fortress recently.

The first one is a dead military dwarf inside the training room. There are no combat reports and his health was good enough to live a long life.



The second one just happened. My dwarves found two corpses inside a tavern -- tavern keeper and goblin guest.



There are no combat reports and it seems that I don't have a vampire in my fortress because the only citizens that don't have a bedroom are the dwarf from the starting squad and a child (according to the Wiki, they can't be vampires).

There are no information about these cases in the "Justice" menu either.

What can it be?
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em1LL

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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 02:56:16 am »

There is no vomit around their corpses so I don't think that it's an alcohol poisoning either.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 03:04:12 am »

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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2016, 04:36:44 am »

Check legends or engrave a slab. It could have just been old age.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2016, 07:04:34 am »

Old age deaths happens on the turn of the year (all at the same time). There's a DFHack command ("deathcause" or something like that) that might give an indication.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2016, 08:56:45 am »

Old age deaths happens on the turn of the year (all at the same time). There's a DFHack command ("deathcause" or something like that) that might give an indication.
Is DFHack available for 0.43.01?
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 10:37:45 am »

not yet. I am waiting in anticipation for it to be, though,
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 12:07:25 pm »

Colonel Urist, in the tavern, with the +gneiss scepter+.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 02:35:54 pm »



Suffocated? What does it mean?
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 03:07:35 pm »



Suffocated? What does it mean?

Sounds like alcohol, perhaps? The only other things I can think of that cause suffocation are lung damage (via wound or syndrome) or being choked to death.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2016, 03:11:21 pm »



Suffocated? What does it mean?

Sounds like alcohol, perhaps?
But there was no vomit around them.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2016, 03:27:10 pm »

Have you killed any titans or forgotten beasts lately? A syndrome is the only other option I can think of, since you already checked combat logs. Their blood can have interesting and delayed effects.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2016, 04:10:39 pm »

Dorfs have a tendency to clean up vomit, especially to locations that are close to where they happen to be... Death by suffocation in the tavern: very likely to be alcohol poisoning, unless syndromes, etc. can reasonably be suspected. It is possible for a bar brawl where the opponent damaged the victim's lungs sufficiently for suffocation, but excessive alcohol consumption is still the most likely cause by far. It usually takes a number of attempts from the tavern keeper/performer to successfully generate enough compound lung damage to kill the victims. but unless you monitor your tavern patrons you'll usually discover it when it's too late.
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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 01:43:58 am »

I used to have this problem so I transferred all tavern personnel to the temple. So far it seems to be working, but if other dwarfs can serve alcohol, it won't probably.

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Re: Strange accidents in public places
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 03:29:06 am »

As long as you remove the performers as well there won't be any poisoning activity in the tavern (barring syndromes dragged in and animals let lose).
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