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Re: (The Second Sun) Superhero RPG [OOC Thread] (Players chosen!)
« Reply #465 on: May 24, 2016, 01:23:46 pm »

She might know Elysia from aforementioned offering little kids biscuits; Elysia's pride at being called a kid might not win out over nice biscuits.
Well, not for a while.
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« Reply #466 on: May 24, 2016, 01:24:33 pm »

Awareness v. Intellect or Intellect v. Intellect makes a bit more sense though, except it shouldn't actually be an opposed roll.

I disagree! Although of course this is straying directly into "only the GM knows" intellect covers knowing and learning and general smarts, which, although yes, sorta applies to hiding ones identity, I think needs to be more narrowly applied (because honestly the same argument could be made to pretty much all mental and even plenty of physical tests). Whereas willpower has social interaction (which I think this would generally fall under) directly in it's preview!

The closest action actually spelled out in the rules to disguise I can find is Persuading, which is willpower.
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« Reply #467 on: May 24, 2016, 01:25:38 pm »

Yes, you disagree.  We noticed.

Persuading != actively concealing something from somebody.

Persuading is convincing the guy who noticed whatever it is that it's not what they think.
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« Reply #468 on: May 24, 2016, 01:26:18 pm »

She might know Elysia from aforementioned offering little kids biscuits; Elysia's pride at being called a kid might not win out over nice biscuits.
Well, not for a while.
The prideful, vaguely tsundere-type teenager with the motherly proper lady cop.

This is going to end well. :P

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« Reply #469 on: May 24, 2016, 01:28:15 pm »

I'm not sure who the 'we' is here TBF. No need to get snippy mate. If you don't want to engage in a purely hypothetical rules lawyery debate thing that's fine, although it's something I enjoy I understand not everyone cares. But in that case feel free to not try to make the debate at all.
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« Reply #470 on: May 24, 2016, 01:31:26 pm »

That does make me want to ask the question: would it be possible to play a Batman-style terror hero? Just scare the living daylights out of your enemies so that they just run away instead of fighting?

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« Reply #471 on: May 24, 2016, 01:32:40 pm »

I'm not sure who the 'we' is here TBF. No need to get snippy mate. If you don't want to engage in a purely hypothetical rules lawyery debate thing that's fine, although it's something I enjoy I understand not everyone cares. But in that case feel free to not try to make the debate at all.
I just really don't think that a charisma test makes sense for avoiding somebody noticing your disguise.  It makes more sense to test it as Noticing (or Searching) v. Inventing.

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Willpower
Use Willpower for tests of a character's strength of will, force of personality, or charisma.
Intimidating
You can use your Willpower to overawe people and intimidate them into doing what you want. Make a Willpower test against the target's Willpower. Success makes them willing to do things that aren't likely to get them in trouble. A major success gets the target to do more difficult things and shakes their confidence, applying a –2 to actions to oppose you that page. A massive success means the target will do almost anything you want, and flees or surrenders rather than opposing you. A failure to intimidate a target means you cannot try intimidating that character again until circumstances change without using Determined Effort.
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« Reply #472 on: May 24, 2016, 01:51:57 pm »

Inventing is for making gadgets. Actually convincingly coning a town long term that you're something less then you are seems to need a lot of willpower to me... Like, maybe if you were making a hologram or a synthetic face or something, but her disguise isn't a physical object, it's a social construct.
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« Reply #473 on: May 24, 2016, 01:52:37 pm »

Which is inventing a persona.  And it's just as physical as it is mental.  Batman hides the Batcave from casual visitors to his house and all.
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« Reply #474 on: May 24, 2016, 02:04:10 pm »

Okay, "inventing a persona" so inventing did make me laugh. I'll give you that as hilarious :P

My guys going to be really good at lying when I use my strength in "lifting their suspicious"
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« Reply #475 on: May 24, 2016, 02:05:19 pm »

Which is inventing a persona.  And it's just as physical as it is mental.  Batman hides the Batcave from casual visitors to his house and all.
Considering the only thing she needs to hide is her rifle (her belt is pretty much no different from your average fashion item), it's even easier. :P

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« Reply #476 on: May 24, 2016, 02:06:42 pm »

Spycraft, and secret identities, are all about planning.

You won't get far in your quest to become a spy if you haven't thought to get a fake drivers' license.  Or a real one.

Which is inventing a persona.  And it's just as physical as it is mental.  Batman hides the Batcave from casual visitors to his house and all.
Considering the only thing she needs to hide is her rifle (her belt is pretty much no different from your average fashion item), it's even easier. :P
And her steely personality under the posh lady one.
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« Reply #477 on: May 24, 2016, 02:08:06 pm »

Now that would be harder, but yeah. I mean, she really IS a nice, motherly type; that part isn't a facade at all. Just one you really don't want to piss off.

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« Reply #478 on: May 24, 2016, 02:09:33 pm »

Still, hiding is hiding.
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« Reply #479 on: May 24, 2016, 02:30:14 pm »

Yeah, but it's a different thing. She's not exactly making up a false persona. She's lying by omission.
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