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[Happy Demon]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

As said before, Axt uses 1E to further the cunning fox project, and will do so each tick.
((Rekkr has the super beasts, so only the foxes there need the power. The other islands are unaffected.))

"There seems to be no rules for dungeon creation, and I am not going to have them use the planet creation rules."
Propose: Axe Dungeon 1: Dungeons have the base cost of 0.25 Essence. And will use traits to augment their effect.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 2: It costs 25% of the invested Essence for a god to access the dungeon. Items in the dungeon counts as invested essence, so if there's God A's artifact which cost 3 Essence in a 12 Essence dungeon, the god can access the dungeon. Creatures count as Essence in this regard, and it only counts the added value of all the items belonging to a god. This will also allow up to 4 gods to participate in the creation, as investment in the dungeon counts as items in this regard as well.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 3: Idols of Power, enchanted by the gods, let the wielder call upon a limited amount of power from the god. The more powerful the item, and the more skilled the wielder, the more power can be drawn. But god can freely deny them power, so it cannot be used without the god's permission.
"I think this is a good baseline, allowing... wait."
Propose: Axe Dungeon 4: Gods cannot remove their items from a dungeon, or any others' items, only mortals can take items out of a dungeon.
"This will make it a realm for mortal adventurers, with limited interference from gods, but still make it so it's not a safe zone.
But before I can propose traits, I need the baseline approved."

[Chevaleresse]

Support all of Axt's proposals above.

"This seems to be a splendid idea."

[Fiery_Death]

Support Axe Dungeon Proposals 1 through 4.

[crazyabe]

Support Axe Dungeon 1-4

[IcyTea31]

Propose: Axe Dungeon 1:

Propose: Axe Dungeon 3:

Propose: Axe Dungeon 4:

Abstain.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 2: It costs 25% of the invested Essence for a god to access the dungeon. Items in the dungeon counts as invested essence, so if there's God A's artifact which cost 3 Essence in a 12 Essence dungeon, the god can access the dungeon. Creatures count as Essence in this regard, and it only counts the added value of all the items belonging to a god. This will also allow up to 4 gods to participate in the creation, as investment in the dungeon counts as items in this regard as well.

"What if a god puts things into the dungeon after the fact? Will the access be recalculated? If five or more gods invest in a dungeon, won't only three of them be ever able to reach 25% investment and access it? Also, a 3E artifact in a 12E dungeon is 20% of the total cost, not 25%."

[Detoxicated]

"Aha I figured it would be Mischief himself who did the burnings... Thinking you accused poor Munroe which got him killed..."
Send the following headlines to the newspapers: "God of Journalism suspected to Burn down Printing Houses"

"Maybe if it is true, we should hang him and burn him upside down? Would you like that Mischief? I mean you can't honestly mess with freedom of speech so much, I mean we other gods followed your plan to let the paperboys work, but you couldn't go through with it and had to burn them down. Probably because you wanted to gain power too, afterall you could attack a god who was against freedom of speech... Show yourself Mischief, and explain your action to all of us!"

EDit: "Axe I do not understand your second proposal. If you care to explain your proposals in different words I will support them, as they seem interesting enough to me!"
Also create big and small turtles of various sizes surrounding any turtlekind land for 2 Essence, so the shellcarvers can practice all they want...

[Happy Demon]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

Propose: Axe Dungeon 2: It costs 25% of the invested Essence for a god to access the dungeon. Items in the dungeon counts as invested essence, so if there's God A's artifact which cost 3 Essence in a 12 Essence dungeon, the god can access the dungeon. Creatures count as Essence in this regard, and it only counts the added value of all the items belonging to a god. This will also allow up to 4 gods to participate in the creation, as investment in the dungeon counts as items in this regard as well.

"What if a god puts things into the dungeon after the fact? Will the access be recalculated? If five or more gods invest in a dungeon, won't only three of them be ever able to reach 25% investment and access it? Also, a 3E artifact in a 12E dungeon is 20% of the total cost, not 25%."

"12 Essence was invested into the dungeon, the artifacts inside are not investment, they're contents. If a 6 Essence dragon inhabits the dungeon, the dungeon is still a 12 Essence dungeon.
I am going to put the limit at 4 gods, if you want to do a dungeon with 5 or more gods, you will have to design 2 dungeons that fit together to be one dungeon, but have little power over the other part."

EDit: "Axe I do not understand your second proposal. If you care to explain your proposals in different words I will support them, as they seem interesting enough to me!"
Also create big and small turtles of various sizes surrounding any turtlekind land for 2 Essence, so the shellcarvers can practice all they want...

"I have planned to propose dungeon traits, only the dungeon traits count as investment. Things inside the dungeon are content.
So if a dungeon is created for 16 Essence, it'll require you to have content worth 4 Essence before you have power over it."

"However, you can take over a dungeon by investing up to 25% into the dungeon, but that does scale.
So in order to take over a dungeon of 12 Essence, you have to first gain access by putting in an item worth 3 Essence, and then invest 4 Essence into the dungeon.
After that, you can even alter the dungeon."

"But dungeons solidify with age, and will retain parts of itself even when altered.
So if you want to make an old brick dungeon into a magma dungeon, it will be a magma dungeon with big chunks of the brick dungeon remaining.
Younger dungeons will have less remaining, but you will have to spend a lot in order to erase all remains of the previous dungeon."
Propose: Axe Dungeon 5: A dungeon will solidify with age, making them harder to alter. After 10 Ticks, it's almost impossible to alter their environment (only small patches of new environment), and you're better off just making a new dungeon connected to it (like giant cracks in the floor, leading to a magma dungeon).

[hector13]

"Aha I figured it would be Mischief himself who did the burnings... Thinking you accused poor Munroe which got him killed..."
Send the following headlines to the newspapers: "God of Journalism suspected to Burn down Printing Houses"

"Maybe if it is true, we should hang him and burn him upside down? Would you like that Mischief? I mean you can't honestly mess with freedom of speech so much, I mean we other gods followed your plan to let the paperboys work, but you couldn't go through with it and had to burn them down. Probably because you wanted to gain power too, afterall you could attack a god who was against freedom of speech... Show yourself Mischief, and explain your action to all of us!"

EDit: "Axe I do not understand your second proposal. If you care to explain your proposals in different words I will support them, as they seem interesting enough to me!"
Also create big and small turtles of various sizes surrounding any turtlekind land for 2 Essence, so the shellcarvers can practice all they want...

"You are very quick to assume the results of the investigation have not been tampered with in some manner. Perhaps you could tell us why Mischief was publicly investigating the arson if they were the one that burned the print houses down? If that were the case, one might expect the results to be very different..."

[IcyTea31]

Propose: Axe Dungeon 2:

Propose: Axe Dungeon 5:

Support.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 4:

Change vote: Support.

[Happy Demon]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

"You are very quick to assume the results of the investigation have not been tampered with in some manner. Perhaps you could tell us why Mischief was publicly investigating the arson if they were the one that burned the print houses down? If that were the case, one might expect the results to be very different..."

"Just, when you all find the culprit. Don't gang up in a mob. Keep it honorable."

[IcyTea31]

Show yourself Mischief, and explain your action to all of us!"

"INVESTIGATION CONTAMINATES CRIME SCENE. NOTHING TO EXPLAIN, SAY JOURNALISTS."

"As a side note, I'd like to point out you asked to ally with us not long ago. You're not doing a very good job at convincing us to change our mind about it."

[hector13]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

"You are very quick to assume the results of the investigation have not been tampered with in some manner. Perhaps you could tell us why Mischief was publicly investigating the arson if they were the one that burned the print houses down? If that were the case, one might expect the results to be very different..."

"Just, when you all find the culprit. Don't gang up in a mob. Keep it honorable."

"I have minimal interest in this, to be quite honest. I am mostly intrigued by Zurion going out of their way to hold a certain position, especially when that position is not the only position that exists, and is an unlikely position to exist in the first place."

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

Propose: Axe Dungeon 1: Dungeons have the base cost of 0.25 Essence. And will use traits to augment their effect.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 2: It costs 25% of the invested Essence for a god to access the dungeon. Items in the dungeon counts as invested essence, so if there's God A's artifact which cost 3 Essence in a 12 Essence dungeon, the god can access the dungeon. Creatures count as Essence in this regard, and it only counts the added value of all the items belonging to a god. This will also allow up to 4 gods to participate in the creation, as investment in the dungeon counts as items in this regard as well.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 3: Idols of Power, enchanted by the gods, let the wielder call upon a limited amount of power from the god. The more powerful the item, and the more skilled the wielder, the more power can be drawn. But god can freely deny them power, so it cannot be used without the god's permission.

Propose: Axe Dungeon 4: Gods cannot remove their items from a dungeon, or any others' items, only mortals can take items out of a dungeon.

Saukko

Support

Propose: Axe Dungeon 5: A dungeon will solidify with age, making them harder to alter. After 10 Ticks, it's almost impossible to alter their environment (only small patches of new environment), and you're better off just making a new dungeon connected to it (like giant cracks in the floor, leading to a magma dungeon).

Oppose

[piratejoe]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

"There seems to be no rules for dungeon creation, and I am not going to have them use the planet creation rules."
Propose: Axe Dungeon 1:
Propose: Axe Dungeon 2:
Propose: Axe Dungeon 3:
Propose: Axe Dungeon 4:

Support
"I cant wait for the Draki to reach any of the islands out there, it will be highly amusing watching them realize they aren't as strong as they thought they are before seconds later they get struck down. Also i like your first four proposals on dungeons Axt, so i will support them."

[Kilojoule Proton]

Tick 18.5: Bounces

Zurion suspects that Mischief himself was the one responsible for the burning down of a printing house. Mischief suggests that that was probably a result of accidentally contaminating the evidence and says there is no need for comment. Saukko considers Zurion's behavior to be suspicious.

The Draki have reached a port town, pillaged and then burnt down most of it, and seized the few ships docked. There are not nearly enough for all the Draki and their yurts.
Shellcarving done on non-speaking turtles has replaced shellcarving done on speaking turtles for most.
There has been an outbreak of spontaneous dancing and dancing-induced dehydration and dementia.
Following a Council resolution, Sollia, Mischief/Christine, Luuc, ior Zurion are urged to generate lists of sites with descriptive blurbs.

Suspended actions

Spoiler: Gods (click to show/hide)

Charon (Immortality, Music) 13/20E
Axt (Weapons, Enchantments) 4/21E
Munroe (Explosions) 6/22E
Saukko (Weather) 9/23E
Urthon (Secrets, Darkness) 21/21E
Atian (War, Chaos) 22/22E
Kyuu (Destruction, Death) 12/22E
Sliva (Health, Peace) 10/21E
Zurion (Turtles, Discipline) 8/24E
Ascald (Craftsmanship) 14/23E
Sollia (Fire, Passion) 13/20E
The Everymind (Sentient Beings, Genericism) 14/22E
Dorkàr (Stone, Metal) 15/20E
Sacohpiocutr'ron (Chaos, Conversion) 13/24E
Mischief (Journalism) 19/22E
Malakath (Souls) 12/21E
Luuc (Judgment, Underworld) 12/21E
Vulkus (Fire, Family) 13/20E

Spoiler: Sleeping Beauties (click to show/hide)

Vir (Dungeons, Dragons)
Dreadnog (Occultism, Torture)
Dyastopia (Sloth, Despair)
Isgon (Knowledge, Books)

Active Council resolutions

Spoiler: Council resolutions (click to show/hide)

Tick 1

0a: All proposals pertaining to rules start with the number 1

0b: All proposals pertaining to creation have the second number 2

0c: All proposals pertaining to planet creation have third number P

1.2b: Creations can have traits.

1.2.Pa: Add these traits to planets
Size+3: <~Saturn-sized (r~48000km/32000mi): <x3.4>
Size+2: Neptune-sized (r~24000km/16000mi): <x2.3>
Size+1: ? ? ?-sized (r~12000km/8000mi): <x1.5>
Size+0: Earth-sized (r~6000km/4000mi): <x1>
Size-1: Mars-sized (r~3000km/2000mi): <x0.7>
Size-2: Moon-sized (r~1500km/1000mi): <x0.4>
Size-3: Iapetus-sized (r~750km/500mi): <x0.3>

1.2.3b: Creating Non Sapient non powerful Animals or plants costs 0E

Axe 2: Worlds will never be controlled, there will always be something unexpected, be it monster, savior, underground world, etc.

Axe 5: Propose an orb of fire to provide sunlight to the earth it's over.

Clean.4: All proposals with four more neys the ayes will be trashed

1.2.3a: Creating 1000 Sapient Creatures costs 4 Essence and traits are added on by multiplying the base cost

Tick 1.5
Half-tick resolutions are not implemented

Tick 2
2a: Worship is based on planet population. Worship is calculated as so: P * 0.001 * F (GM note: Actual effect is 1E/1000 regardless of planetary population because the planet populations cancel out)

CNCL000.020: We may have tea time whenever we damn well please, just for enjoyment and no other reasons

1.2tt: Creatures have traits added onto them by multiplying the base cost by the cost of the trait. Traits costs will be decided by the being that tallies up our votes.

1.3: All traits have generic names and are differentiated by flavour.

CNCL001.009: "I propose we set up a system of nodes and ley lines all over existance. These ley lines will be similar in behaviour to water, following the best path for its course, but with the right hand you could also change the flow of the ley lines. Nodes should be created associated to godly spheres and therefore produce divine energies based on the god's sphere who created the node. Nodes should generically appear as ponds or lakes with weird qualities unless the god who created the node decides to cosmetically change that. In the future it should be possible to create new effects for nodes

I think the cost of a node should depend on its size.

Tiny - 150m² in size 2km² area of affection. Cost 1 Essence
Small - 500m² in size. 12km² area of affection Cost 2 Essence
Medium 1000m² in size. 27km² area of affection. Cost 4 Essence
Big  10000m² in size. 330km² area of affection. Cost 8 Essence
Large 100000m² in size. 4000km² area of affection. cost 16 Essence.

1.Bookkeeping: Gods must list out traits that their creatures have when they create them

1.Traits: The entity that tallies votes decides the price of traits

CNCL001.018: Rune magic works by codifying certain traits or properties written in divine language, and then pulling energy from the local leylines/background magic/True Source/etc to enforce these properties upon the objects so inscribed. Mundane stones, metals, and gemstones can hold more energy than other materials, in that order. More stored energy = more powerful enchantments. Active enchantments must have time to recharge after use, passive enchantments will slowly fade if totally isolated from magical power but otherwise require no upkeep beyond making sure the runes themselves are not damaged. It requires nothing more than a steady, precise hand and strong materials to function.

Tick 2.5
Half-tick resolutions are not implemented

Tick 3
1.2.Pb: The maximum number of planets will be limited to some function of the number of existing gods.

CNCL001.023: Afterlife planes cost no essence, but cannot directly affect the mortal world in any way. However, they require Essence to destroy, starting with two. A deity may contribute Essence to their plane to increase the cost of destroying it by twice the amount contributed.

Collaboration - Cost: Gods collaborating on a project may split the costs evenly. Sphere discounts will apply to the whole project (though we have no rule for sphere discounts yet.)

Collaboration - Pantheon: Gods may form smaller councils of their own, bound by their own laws, as long as said laws do not conflict with those of the main council (e.g. a law stating a planet costs 1E to create.) The individual characteristics of each pantheon may be decided by the members.

Tick 4
CNCL001.021: 1,000 non-mundane creatures have a base cost of 1E. The creatures are non-mundane because they can have traits added. (GM interpretation: These creatures are animal creatures and not worship-capable or intelligent enough to act without constant supervision.)

1.CNCL001.022.1: A proposal will not require a proposal to be proposed for the sake of creating a counterpropsoal that will act as another proposal that may be a nominally better proposal, a worse proposal or a better proposal than the proposal the counterproposal was proposed for. Instead all proposed proposals may be opposed in the normal manner of SUPPORT/OPPOSE.

Discipline of Ley: You learn to control the very energy that is the ley lines and nodes. Depending on the ley line you extract the energy from you get different results. This magic is based on deep meditative trance, exact movements and taking in varying amounts of energy into and out of your body with breathing techniques. Great feats can be accomplished as one can concentrate to be able to run 80 miles without rest, cause explosions with a mere fingersnap, or turn into metal by focusing on the image of lead.

B00m! 1.A: Creating a worshippable race costs 4E for 1000. This proposal removes all proposals stating that it costs 1E for 1000.

1.5: Gods cannot listen to prayers so as to reduce KJP's workload.

1.6: No cat-like entity/object/state of matter/form of energy will be allowed to tamper with the Void. If this proposal is defied, the cat-like [thing] will be dealt 1E of damage by each god.

Collaboration - Worship: A race may worship multiple gods. The essence gained from this for each god is multiplied by .8 for each additional god worshiped. Gods may get around this by forming a pantheon, and being considered as a single entity for the purposes of worship.

Hybrid Sphere Discounts: Gods get a 10% discount on actions related to one of their spheres, unless the action is related to all of their spheres, in which case it is instead a 25% discount.

Leyline amendment: Leylines develop as nodes are created. They serve as connections between nodes, transporting energy of the node to the next of his kind. When leylines of different types meet, a new effect comes into being. On such interjunctions, one can create a hybrid node. (GM note: Isn't this how leylines are supposed to work anyway!?)

Tick 5

School of Magic: Vejrdraoid, or weather magic, practitioners are able to influence air pressure, moisture, sunlight, and - at the most advanced levels - electrical charge in a variety of offensive and defensive defensive spells. Powered via leylines.

Partial prayer listening: That gods may listen and answer to prayers in the manner appropriate to that particular god only subconsciously, but automatically, and only the most significant (aka plot-important/indicative of something you may really want to do something about) make it to the conscious minds of the gods.

A trait must exist for it to be applied, otherwise the artifact creation is put on hold.[/quote]

Tick 6

Tick 7

Collaboration - Pantheon.1: Worship being multiplied by 0.9 for every god in the Pantheon instead

SIMPLIFICATION: GENERICNESS FOR TRAITS AND ALL. LET US USE DEXTERITY FOR SPEED, WHICH IS ALREADY A TRAIT.

   Revised 1.5: Gods are always listening to prayers, but this is handled by their divine subconscious and answered when appropriate by such as well. Only particularly significant prayers reach the conscious minds of Gods.

OPC: There can only be 13 chaos magician alive at a time.

   Counter-proposal?: All schools of magic must draw their power from leylines or directly from the god creating it. This will cost the god 0.5E per 1,000 practicioners, should they decided to go that route.

Banlist - Trait Combinations: Certain combinations of traits can be banned by the council.

   Ban: Resurrective Immortality + Infinite Lifespan.

PlanReg C: Terrestrial planets limited to number of existing gods X 1.2

Plan Reg E: Each planet may have a minimum of no moons. Terrestrial planets have a maximum of 5. Gaseous planets have a maximum of 10.

Law of Cullment: If a law has not been passed for three ticks it gets erased from the list.

Law of Cullment.5: If a law has not been passed for five ticks it gets erased from the list.

Titan Bandaid Rule: A titan has a base cost of 0.004. This proposal is nullified should an agent creation system be passed.

Transformation Magic: Transformation magic is a subclass of magic that utilizes either the techniques of runic magic or discipline of ley. The effects of transformation magic are manyfold as it can be utilized in nearly infinite different ways. A transformation rune on a wooden shield might turn the shield into iron, as long as the rune is intact, while a practicioner of the discipline of ley might use ley line energies to create a draki features. As the possibilities, one shall see how the different cultures will find out about this type of magic. Also it is still unknown whether schools will form from this.

Node effects: The effects nodes have can be decided by the gods who made them (must relate to their sphere or spheres).

Node strength: The maximum strength of the effect of a node is limited and enhanced by its size. The large a node is, the more powerful the god who made it can make its effect.

World limit: A limit on planets of 1/12 the current number of gods for gaseous planets, 1/6 the number of gods for terrestrial planets, and 1/2 the number of gods for total moons.

Artifacts:

Artifacts start at a base cost of 1E, and can have traits applied to them in a similar manner to races. Traits for artifacts may be proposed to the Council, and must be listed as such in the proposal - for example," proposal: artifact trait: indestructible x4."

Turtle News Network: Every tick made, there should be updates about the most prominent regions

1.2a: Gods working together get their creation cost multiplied by a set amount based on how many gods are working together

        15 total gods -> 5% normal price
        12 total gods -> 10% normal price
        10 total gods -> 15% normal price
        9 total gods -> 20% normal price
        8 total gods -> 25% normal price
        7 total gods -> 35% normal price
        6 total gods -> 40% normal price
        5 total gods -> 50% normal price
        4 total gods -> 65%
        3 total gods -> 80%
        2 total gods -> 100%
        1 total god is the normal price

Revivals: Gods at 0E or below may be gifted Essence to return to life. Any gifted Essence is halved and provided to the god, with a minimum gift of 2E necessary to bring the dead god back to life if the dead god is at 0E, 4E if they are at -1E, 6E at -2E etc.


Magic system: Rather than using Ley Lines, this system of magic is powered by a series of naturally occurring ores. These ores must be mined and refined to be used. It is simple to change it from solid to liquid or gas, increasing the forms it can be used. Often, it will be made into weapons, armor, jewelry, or other easily used equipment. As magic from this system is used, the Ores lose power, becoming depleted depending on what kind of ore was used and how well it was refined. Often, the magic in a small piece of ore can be released in a single spell, such as making an arrowhead of the ore for a single powerful attack. The ore naturally glows in all forms in a color depending on its type, slowly loosing its glow as its magic is depleted. The ore can naturally be refined into other metals, generally increasing its physical properties to the other metal while giving it the color, glow, and abilities of the ore. Long-term spells can be placed on a piece of ore and they will continue until actively stopped or depleted, for example an ore powered streetlight can have a light spell placed on it in the evening and will stay lit all night, until someone cancels the spell in the morning.

Weapon Enchanting: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=157842.msg6987173#msg6987173

Divamancy: The manipulation of emotion and souls via music, all divamancers must use runemagic-infused instruments to perform their spells. Different rhythms and beats result in different effects.

Pyromancy: the manipulation of fire (the chemical process) and fire (the energy that keeps life running). Prolonged use of pyromancy has a tendency to burn out the user.

Discipline of Soul: Based on Discipline of Ley, Discipline of Soul can be applied to perform a wide variety of different actions, though there are a few key differences. It is the method of controlling the energy of the soul. This magic is based on willpower, spiritual stability, and focus. This magical discipline is harder to learn than ley magic but can be used anywhere without issue. Applications include classical necromancy, turning rotten bread fresh, and summoning dire badgers.

Subschools: The Magic system that is based on nodes so far can be harnessed by the Discipline of Ley and Runic Magic. Both are formed only in broad terms so anyone can add upon said systems. Creating a subschool of one of the existing magic systems should not require essence, and also it should give the players absolute freedom. Powerful "Spells" should be difficult for mortals to learn to represent that a player must state how difficult a spell is behind the spell. There should be seven classes of difficulties: Common, Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard, Neigh Impossible. If the power of a spell is considered too powerful, the spell will be settled at the Neigh Impossible level by popular vote.  (GM note: Implicitly requires that creating subschools be public)

Cull Idlers.a: If a god does nothing for 5 ticks (does not vote, speak, or perform an action), that god is considered to be idle. An idle god is invulnerable to attack, but does not receive essence income.

Census: Request a general census of overall mortal populations.

Propose Null Idlers: Gods which are considered idle are not taken into account for average worship as used for Influence calculations. Furthermore, their names are listed separately from that of the active Gods in the tickly mental status report, as they require far less calculations and may thus be separated to streamline the process.

Fix voting flaw: All proposals must be on the proposalog for at least one full Tick before they can resolve (pass or fail), so that all Council members have a chance to vote on them.

Census with relations: Request a general census of overall mortal populations with general interspecies relations

I propose that interesting sites created and changed by the gods are all gathered and displayed by Sollia/Mischief/Christine/Luuc/Zurion It should include a name and a blurb of the site.

Proposalog

Spoiler: Proposals (click to show/hide)

I propose that interesting sites created and changed by the gods are all gathered and displayed by Zurion/Charon/The Everymind/Atian. It should include a name a small description of the site, and its location.
   +4 from Zurion, Charon, The Everymind, Atian
   -4 from Kyuu, Saukko, Malakath, Luuc

Repeal the Unusual Form trait.
   +1 from Saukko
   -2 from Sollia, Zurion

Sphere discounts do not apply to node creation, as nodes already embody a god's sphere. The only exception is the "Magic" sphere, which does receive a sphere discount.
   +3 from Ascald, Sollia, Luuc
   -2 from Malakath, Saukko

Abstain votes: Abstain votes are tracked on proposals and traits. They have no effect beyond making it clear who has taken that stance on the proposal or trait [WILL PASS]
   +4 from Mischief/Christine, Luuc, Zurion, Saukko
   -1 from The Serene Tower

Instant amendment: Abstain votes count as votes for determining the majority percentage of support and opposal. For example, a proposal with four support votes, one abstain vote and two oppose votes would not immediately pass without another supporter.
   +2 from Mischief/Christine, Zurion
   -2 from The Serene Tower, Saukko

Spoiler: Traits (click to show/hide)

Propose Trait: Champion [x15]: Can only be applied to creatures capable of worship, these creatures can use semi-divine powers, which can't be fully restrained. They have absolute will, and can break any mind control (even if it's there from the beginning), if they put enough will to it. Creatures with this trait cannot be immortal, and this trait cannot be passed on. Creatures with this trait cannot enter any plane of afterlife, and will be bound to the material world upon death. Depends on Legendary[x50] passing.
   +1 from Christine/Mischief/Christine
   -1 from Saukko
Titan Creation:

Titan Creation
I think creating Champions should have a base cost of 1Essence*TraitCost and exclude Immortality. Requires willing Mortal.
Creating Demigods should have a base cost of 2 Essence*Traitcost and Immortality should come at a reduced prise of 1.5. Requires Mortal who can bear the child of a god. The exact details of godly procreation shall be nothing to discuss in our civil courts.
Gargantuans should come at a base cost of 4Essence*Traitcost and should automatically have three stats raised to +1, or one stat raised to +1. They alll are sapient and able to worship. Adding immortality should cost a flat 1Essence. Éxtra abilities that aren't included in the racial list shall cost at least One essence, added onto the 4E*TC.
Giant Beasts shall cost 2Essence*Trait+GargantuanTrait. They all start at size +2 and all are Immortal
Job traits: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=157842.msg7003963#msg7003963
   +2 from Sacohpiocutr'ron, Atian
   -3 from Christine/Mischief/Christine Saukko, Sollia
Node Carrier *7 - A node can be created into this artifact. If the artifact is destroyed the node is released... Intact the Artifact emits the same effects the node would only bundled into the artifact. A crown of Fire might set its wearer on constant fire, while destroyed everything would be set on constant fire.
   +3 from Zurion, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Charon
   -3 from Saukko, Kyuu, Mischief/Christine
Soul Prison *2 - This artifact traps souls. Each soul enhances another effect of the artifact. So the crown of constant fire would create even hotter and bigger flames.
   +3 from Zurion, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Kyuu
   -4 from Saukko, Charon, Sollia, Mischief/Christine
Worthy Only 1.2x The artifact can only be used by someone chosen by the god/goddess to weld it or some chosen by fate in the case the creator doesn't care who can use it, should someone unworthy try to use it ether it wouldn't work or something will happen to the user should the creator wish, an example is a artifact sword a unworthy tried to pickup by would be to heavy for them or if the god defined what would happen the artifact may burn the unworthy/unchosen ones hand
   +2 from Kyuu, Zurion
   -4 from Charon, Sollia, Mischief/Christine, Saukko
Acidic 2.0 3.0 and 5.0 respectively,The first level of this trait means in the case of a weapon whoever is cut by it will feel a painful burning feeling in the wound the second level would actually have the person hit have there flesh burn away for a few seconds and the third level of this trait would mean anyone who is hit would have there flesh burn away to the bone making it extremely useful against lightly armored targets
   +4 from Kyuu, Zurion, Luuc, Axt
   -3 from Sollia, Saukko, Mischief/Christine
Sharpness 2.3 3.5 5.0 The weapon is sharper then normal and can cut through things most swords can not at level one this would be able to cut through a unarmored man with ease and able to with a hard enough blow cut through copper level two it would be able to cut through bronze and copper easily and with a strong enough strike iron and at level three cut through iron and all weaker materials easily and with a strong enough strike cut through steel. cannot be used with traits that make the weapon as weaker.
   +3 from Kyuua, Zurion, Axt
   -3 from Sollia, Saukko, Mischief/Christine
Sharpness 2.3 3.5 5.0 The weapon is sharper then normal and can cut through things most swords can not at level one this would be able to cut through a unarmored man with ease and able to with a hard enough blow cut through copper level two it would be able to cut through bronze and copper easily and with a strong enough strike iron and at level three cut through iron and all weaker materials easily and with a strong enough strike cut through steel. cannot be used with traits that make the weapon as weaker. [Sharpness [8.0] Can cut through anything like butter apart from divine materials.]
   +2 from Luuc, Kyuu
   -2 from Mischief/Christine, Saukko
Worthy Only 5x The artifact can only be used by someone chosen by the god/goddess to weld it or some chosen by fate in the case the creator doesn't care who can use it, should someone unworthy try to use it ether it wouldn't work or something will happen to the user should the creator wish, an example is a artifact sword a unworthy tried to pickup by would be to heavy for them or if the god defined what would happen the artifact may burn the unworthy/unchosen ones hand
   +1 from Kyuu
   -1 from Christine/Mischief
Acidic 2.0 4.0 and 6.0 respectively,The first level of this trait means in the case of a weapon whoever is cut by it will feel a painful burning feeling in the wound the second level would actually have the person hit have there flesh burn away for a few seconds and the third level of this trait would mean anyone who is hit would have there flesh burn away to the bone making it extremely useful against lightly armored targets
   +1 from Kyuu
   -1 from Christine/Mischief
Sharpness 2.5 4.0 8.0 The weapon is sharper then normal and can cut through things most swords can not at level one this would be able to cut through a unarmored man with ease and able to with a hard enough blow cut through copper level two it would be able to cut through bronze and copper easily and with a strong enough strike iron and at level three cut through iron and all weaker materials easily and with a strong enough strike cut through steel. cannot be used with traits that make the weapon as weaker.
   +1 from Kyuu
   -1 from Christine/Mischief
Acidic 2.0 4.0 and 8.0 respectively,The first level of this trait means in the case of a weapon whoever is cut by it will feel a painful burning feeling in the wound the second level would actually have the person hit have there flesh burn away for a few seconds and the third level of this trait would mean anyone who is hit would have there flesh burn away to the bone making it extremely useful against lightly armored targets [WILL PASS]
   +3 from Kyuu, Saukko, Sacohpiocutr'ron
Sharpness 2.5 5.0 10.0 The weapon is sharper then normal and can cut through things most swords can not at level one this would be able to cut through a unarmored man with ease and able to with a hard enough blow cut through copper level two it would be able to cut through bronze and copper easily and with a strong enough strike iron and at level three cut through iron and all weaker materials easily and with a strong enough strike cut through steel. cannot be used with traits that make the weapon as weaker. [WILL PASS]
   +3 from Kyuu, Saukko, Sacohpiocutr'ron
Neutraliser x2 x4 x8: Neutralises the Acidic trait.
   +2 from Saukko, Kyuu
   -1 from Christine/Mischief
Dense x 2.5 x5 x10: Materials are more dense than normal, able to withstand blows from a similarly scaled "Sharpness" artifact.
   +2 from Saukko, Kyuu
   -1 from Christine/Mischief
God Aura: Gods have a passive effect on their surroundings, even when idle. The effect is more power, about 25% more power.  This occurs only with what the god's spheres apply to, specifically, dungeon sphere for more dungeon-y dungeons (size, durability, inhabitants, etc.).  But the more spheres, and the more general the spheres, the weaker the effect.
   +4 from Axt, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Ascald, Malakath
   -3 from Kyuu, Christine/Mischief, The Serene Tower
Idle God Parking: While idle, a god can be tethered to a place, but the tether is immediately undone if the god becomes active again.  Tethering can be broken, with x0.75 the Essence invested. Tethering has a minimum cost of 1 Essence.
   +3 from Axt, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Ascald
   -2 from Kyuu, Christine/Mischief
Masterwork [1,5x / 3x / 6x]: the artifact [is better / is unbeatable / is perfect] at its job compared to mundane objects of its type. A sword cuts deeper, a telescope zooms larger, a car drives faster, and so on. This trait can only be used if the artifact is built upon an object commonly available to at least two mortal civilizations.
   +1 from Christine/Mischief
   -1 from Axt
Masterwork [2x / 4x / 12x]: the artifact [is better / is unbeatable / is perfect] at its job compared to mundane objects of its type. A sword cuts deeper, a telescope zooms larger, a car drives faster, and so on. This trait can only be used if the artifact is built upon an object commonly available to at least two mortal civilizations.
   +2 from Axt, Christine/Mischief
   -2 from The Serene Tower, Munroe

Axe Dungeon 1: Dungeons have the base cost of 0.25 Essence. And will use traits to augment their effect. [IMMINENT PASS]
   +6 from Axt, Ascald, Luuc, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Saukko, Kyuu
   0 from Christine/Mischief

Axe Dungeon 2: It costs 25% of the invested Essence for a god to access the dungeon. Items in the dungeon counts as invested essence, so if there's God A's artifact which cost 3 Essence in a 12 Essence dungeon, the god can access the dungeon. Creatures count as Essence in this regard, and it only counts the added value of all the items belonging to a god. This will also allow up to 4 gods to participate in the creation, as investment in the dungeon counts as items in this regard as well. [IMMINENT PASS]
   +7 from Axt, Ascald, Luuc, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Christine/Mischief, Saukko, Kyuu

Axe Dungeon 3: Idols of Power, enchanted by the gods, let the wielder call upon a limited amount of power from the god. The more powerful the item, and the more skilled the wielder, the more power can be drawn. But god can freely deny them power, so it cannot be used without the god's permission. [IMMINENT PASS]
   +6 from Axt, Ascald, Luuc, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Saukko, Kyuu
   0 from Christine/Mischief

Axe Dungeon 4: Gods cannot remove their items from a dungeon, or any others' items, only mortals can take items out of a dungeon. [IMMINENT PASS]
   +7 from Axt, Ascald, Luuc, Sacohpiocutr'ron, Christine/Mischief, Saukko, Kyuu

Axe Dungeon 5: A dungeon will solidify with age, making them harder to alter. After 10 Ticks, it's almost impossible to alter their environment (only small patches of new environment), and you're better off just making a new dungeon connected to it (like giant cracks in the floor, leading to a magma dungeon).
   +2 from Axt, Christine/Mischief
   -1 from Saukko

[Happy Demon]

[Axt, God of Enchanted Weapons]

"Well, seeing as the Dungeons seem to be going well toward passing. I will make the second part."
Propose: Dungeon Trait Axe 1: Dungeons have 4 characteristics, Size, Residents, Environment, and Location. A dungeon has to have Size, making the base cost 0.25 Essence. Including the other characteristics adds 0.25 Essence for each.
Propose: Dungeon Trait Axe 2: Any trait applied on the characteristic, will only multiply the price of the characteristic, not the total price of the dungeon. So a dungeon with standard everything is 1 Essence, while a dungeon with a 2x trait on size and everything else standard is 1.25 Essence.
"With this, you can enhance a dungeon, without the price skyrocketing."

"Now, to make some tangible traits. Because these proposals say nothing alone."

Spoiler: Proposal (click to show/hide)

Propose Dungeon Trait: Size: Size 0 [Error], cannot be done.
Size 1 [Size*2⁰], roughly the volume of a two story house, so about 1 000 m³.
Size 2 [Size*2¹], 5 times more space, 5 000 m³.
Size 3 [Size*2²], 5 times previous, 25 000 m³.
Size 4 [Size*2³], 4 times, 100 000 m³.
Size 5 [Size*2⁴], 5 times, 500 000 m³.
Size 6 [Size*2⁵], 5 times, 2 500 000 m³.
Size 7 [Size*2⁶], 5 times, 12 500 000 m³.
Size 8 [Size*2⁷], 4 times, 50 000 000 m³.
Size 9 [Size*2⁸], 5 times, 250 000 000 m³.
Size 10 [Size*2⁹], 4 times, 1 000 000 000 m³ or 1 km³.

"Nice and simple numbers. And by having it be volume, you can keep the area big, by lowering the ceiling. And tall rooms are a luxury.
It only counts the space between the walls, ceiling, and floor, so it means you can have it stretch really far, rather than encouraging cube dungeons, with only that small a cube to work within.
And bringing Size to 10, the Size alone would cost... 128 Essence. Feel free to bring your own proposals, I am not one for math."
((1 000 m³ can make a 20x12x4 meter house, or, in imperial terms, 65x40x13 feet. Well, there is a bit more space than that, but only a little.
Only the space between the walls, ceiling, and floor is counted, aka. the space you can move in. Not the thickness of the walls, ceiling or floor.
Converting from meter to kilometer had me reduce it by a factor of a billion, that small ³ means I have to reduce it by 1 000*1 000*1 000, instead of the regular 1 000.
2⁰ = 1, this is because it's seen as 1*2⁰, so if there's no 2-s to multiply it with, it's just 1. While 2³ is seen as 1*2³, which is 1*2*2*2 = 8.))

"I am a bit tired after that, I will make the other trait proposals later. Math is a bit difficult."

Edit: ((I'll make the prices easier to read.))

Spoiler: Simplified (click to show/hide)

Size 1 [Size*1], roughly the volume of a two story house, so about 1 000 m³.
Size 2 [Size*2], 5 times more space, 5 000 m³.
Size 3 [Size*4], 5 times previous, 25 000 m³.
Size 4 [Size*8], 4 times, 100 000 m³.
Size 5 [Size*16], 5 times, 500 000 m³.
Size 6 [Size*32], 5 times, 2 500 000 m³.
Size 7 [Size*64], 5 times, 12 500 000 m³.
Size 8 [Size*128], 4 times, 50 000 000 m³.
Size 9 [Size*256], 5 times, 250 000 000 m³.
Size 10 [Size*512], 4 times, 1 000 000 000 m³ or 1 km³.