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[Stirk]

Propose: Unique Creations: If a creation is intended to have a unique or unquantifiable trait, it may be created without having to pass a proposal for said trait, as long as it is for a reasonable cost. Said creations may be Opposed or Supported much like proposal if their fairness is called into question, but require at least two gods Opposing their creation to be annulled.

Oppose.

"Secret...4ctions...w0uld...mak3...this...unenforceable......c0uld...just......mak3....omnip0t3nt...creature...secr3tly..."

[Chevaleresse]

"Then propose an amendment stating that creatures made using this proposal must be made openly. . ."

[Atian the Elephantman God]

Isgon creates 2 elephant hunters

Spoiler:  Elephant hunters (click to show/hide)

Aven like creatures, that are about 6 feet tall and are very strong and are black as night. They have super sharp talons and super damaging teeth.
Traits:
Strength against Elephant like creatures
Dexterity +1
Endurance +2
Martial Arts +3
Can see in dark
Flight

OPPOSE

[Atian the Elephantman God]

"I will have none of this!"

[Stirk]

"Then propose an amendment stating that creatures made using this proposal must be made openly. . ."

"Murn03...still...w0uld...n0t...particularly...lik3....th3...proposal....
might...b3com3...apathetic....t00...it....4t...b3st....
proposing...an...amendment...would...aut0matically...
support...it..."

[Quartz_Mace]

Support Hybrid Sphere Discounts

"Considering the reception that my first 2 planet regulation proposals had, I'd like to make different ones.
I withdraw PlanReg A and B.

I propose instead PlanReg C: Terrestrial planets limited to number of existing gods X 1.2

PlanReg D: Gaseous planets limited to number of existing gods X 0.25

Plan Reg E: Each planet may have a minimum of no moons. Terrestrial planets have a maximum of 5.
Gaseous planets have a maximum of 10.

I also propose a trait: "[Inorganic Material]: Living." Creatures with this trait are made of the specified material and receive all of the advantages and disadvantages of that material. In order to survive, they still must eat (the material they are made of) and they slowly use it up. This does not make them ageless, or immortal. It costs X 1.6E.

[piratejoe]

"I will have none of this!"

"You can not oppose such a creation as all the traits it has have been passed and the proposal that would allow you to do such has not been passed yet, so there is nothing you can do about it."

[hector13]

Propose: Unique Creations: If a creation is intended to have a unique or unquantifiable trait, it may be created without having to pass a proposal for said trait, as long as it is for a reasonable cost. Said creations may be Opposed or Supported much like proposal if their fairness is called into question, but require at least two gods Opposing their creation to be annulled.

Saukko

Oppose

I also propose a trait: "[Inorganic Material]: Living." Creatures with this trait are made of the specified material and receive all of the advantages and disadvantages of that material. In order to survive, they still must eat (the material they are made of) and they slowly use it up. This does not make them ageless, or immortal. It costs X 1.6E.[/b][/color]

Oppose

"I will have none of this!"

"You can not oppose such a creation as all the traits it has have been passed and the proposal that would allow you to do such has not been passed yet, so there is nothing you can do about it."

"They can be opposed, just nothing will happen if no Essence is invested in such an action."

[Stirk]

"They can be opposed, just nothing will happen if no Essence is invested in such an action."

(The actual rule is this:

Opposition
Opposing free actions for free is successful at a 1:2 support:oppose ratio. For non-free actions, the probability of succesful opposition scales as follows:
Factor   Probability
0.5x   5%
0.8x   30%
1.0x   50%
1.5x   75%
2.0x and up   95%

(From the OOC OP)

[Chevaleresse]

Propose: Unique Creations: If a creation is intended to have a unique or unquantifiable trait, it may be created without having to pass a proposal for said trait, as long as it is for a reasonable cost. Said creations may be Opposed or Supported much like proposal if their fairness is called into question, but require at least two gods Opposing their creation to be annulled.

Amend this with the rule that it cannot be a secret action to create something under this proposal.

[IcyTea31]

Unique Creations: If a creation is intended to have a unique or unquantifiable trait, it may be created without having to pass a proposal for said trait, as long as it is for a reasonable cost...

Create the Eternal Champion for 1E...

Oppose both, even with amendment

"ASCALD'S OWN ACTION PROVES PROBLEM IN PROPOSAL. PROPOSAL SPECIFIES REASONABILITY. CREATION PRICE NOT REASONABLE. ASCALD: A HYPOCRITE?"

[Chevaleresse]

Unique Creations: If a creation is intended to have a unique or unquantifiable trait, it may be created without having to pass a proposal for said trait, as long as it is for a reasonable cost...

Create the Eternal Champion for 1E...

Oppose both, even with amendment

"ASCALD'S OWN ACTION PROVES PROBLEM IN PROPOSAL. PROPOSAL SPECIFIES REASONABILITY. CREATION PRICE NOT REASONABLE. ASCALD: A HYPOCRITE?"

"I believe, in this era of titans, the cost of 1E for a single mortal with the incredible, overwhelming power of learning is reasonable. Still, if you truly believe that this single soul is worth less than the great monsters that the other gods have thought up, the proposal exists in current form for this reason. A bit ironic, actually, that you would oppose my proposition then use the very principles it stands on to slight me."

[IcyTea31]

"What are the principles you say it stands on? All I see is a two-parter where the first makes it easier to break the Council's principle of unambiguity and the second is redundant, adding a system that is already in place."


Retract opposal on the Eternal Champion.

"UPDATE: LOOPHOLES IN CHAMPION'S DESIGN. 1E PRICE ACCEPTABLE."

[Chevaleresse]

"It exists for a number of reasons, the first being my continuing - if largely unacceptable - effort to establish fair costs for godly actions. A principle that most of the divinities around seem to have promptly abandoned upon my foolishly revealing that abuse of the current system was possible. Granted, I've attempted to make my own titan, but simply out of the necessity of safeguarding my own worshippers.

The second is to attempt to streamline this infernal process of fighting tooth and claw to get a single trait approved for a single creation, a trait that may not ever be used again, at least in the form it exists for said unique creations. It allows the gods to create more unique and varied creatures rather than forcing them to cobble them together out of a predetermined set of tags, but still allows for the benefits of the process - that is to say, disallowing blatantly unfair abilities or prices - to be carried out."

[micelus]

"It exists for a number of reasons, the first being my continuing - if largely unacceptable - effort to establish fair costs for godly actions. A principle that most of the divinities around seem to have promptly abandoned upon my foolishly revealing that abuse of the current system was possible. Granted, I've attempted to make my own titan, but simply out of the necessity of safeguarding my own worshippers.

HAK HAK HAK. MODESTY YOU LACK. A PROPOSAL I SPUN MADE TO PREVENT ABUSE TO SUCH EXTENT. OPPOSED; I MADE DO WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM.