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[piratejoe]

Faith loss because gods were proven to not all be entirely good.

Ironic, considering that Malakath is the most Lawful Evil god in the Council. Whelp, that's media spin for ya.

She created a bunch of people with an extreme desire, one that would give them extreme pleasure were they to indulge in that desire (the desire being to be eaten by me). Malakath then indulged them in that desire without anyone who did not want to be harmed being harmed.

Like I said, "from a certain point of view".

Creating something that wants to be your slave and would love to be killed by you is defiantly a lawful evil act.

[Happy Demon]

Actions speak louder than words.

[hector13]

Excuse me for all-caps and language.

WE WILL NOT START THE FUCKING MORALITY DISCUSSION AGAIN, FOR THE FOURTH TIME.

It was interesting the first time, less so the second time and quite stupid the third time.

[crazyabe]

Did everyone look right past the point when I made a bunch of freaky new Predators?

[hector13]

They're generic things, just a little messier. If they prove to be issues, people will do something about them then

[Stirk]

Faith loss because gods were proven to not all be entirely good.

Ironic, considering that Malakath is the most Lawful Good god in the Council (from a certain point of view). Whelp, that's media spin for ya.

....You committed genocide twice for pointless experiments. Including permakilling mortals by devouring their just-born souls, making a human just to watch him drown, and generally being an awful person. We talked about this before, and you never really understood morality  .

Faith loss because gods were proven to not all be entirely good.

Ironic, considering that Malakath is the most Lawful Evil god in the Council. Whelp, that's media spin for ya.

She created a bunch of people with an extreme desire, one that would give them extreme pleasure were they to indulge in that desire (the desire being to be eaten by me). Malakath then indulged them in that desire without anyone who did not want to be harmed being harmed.

Like I said, "from a certain point of view".

1. I don't remember you mentioning that, which means it didn't happen. *Checks* yep, you created perfectly normal humans with no particular wants or desires. If something only happens in your head, it doesn't happen.
2. Creating slaves who love you abusing them isn't really a good act.
3. "From a certain point of view" can cover anyone if you let it. Logical people don't let it.

Did everyone look right past the point when I made a bunch of freaky new Predators?

Well they are just normal creatures. The threat they provide is minimal.

[crazyabe]

So flying sharks and man eating toads are "normal"?

[Stirk]

So flying sharks and man eating toads are "normal"?

Pretty much? They are kinda mundane. Unless you are paying for them, they don't have any specific Traits making them a bigger threat than any currently existing natural predator.

[Rolepgeek]

Faith loss because gods were proven to not all be entirely good.

Ironic, considering that Malakath is the most Lawful Good god in the Council (from a certain point of view). Whelp, that's media spin for ya.

....You committed genocide twice for pointless experiments. Including permakilling mortals by devouring their just-born souls, making a human just to watch him drown, and generally being an awful person. We talked about this before, and you never really understood morality  .

To put it another way, Andres, the mortals don't know about, care about, or particularly find the point of view you're talking about understandable. It's like trying to say a Lovecraftian Elder God is good because in it's own system of morals, humans actually want to be eaten and that's why cults spring up, obviously. 'God of Souls has no problems with eating souls' is not something people like hearing, typically.

Like, I'd been considering working with Malakath for that sphere discount, but now...I don't think Sollia really wants to deal with that.

[Chevaleresse]

how the fuck is eating souls lawful good

[Ardent Debater]

how the fuck is eating souls lawful good

They're delicious, and sometimes it involves Pacts, which can be considered Lawful.

[Detoxicated]

So you actually do not understand the issue ooc wise?

[Andres]

making a human just to watch him drown

It didn't drown, it was crushed into pulp by the pressure.

1. I don't remember you mentioning that, which means it didn't happen.

I didn't mention anything contradicting it and it doesn't change anything, so if I say it happened, who's to say it didn't and that I just didn't mention it?

If something only happens in your head, it doesn't happen.

ALL OF THIS only happens in our head.

To put it another way, Andres, the mortals don't know about, care about, or particularly find the point of view you're talking about understandable. It's like trying to say a Lovecraftian Elder God is good because in it's own system of morals, humans actually want to be eaten and that's why cults spring up, obviously. 'God of Souls has no problems with eating souls' is not something people like hearing, typically.

Yup, I totally get that. Not really trying to convince anyone (IC or OOC) that Malakath is good, honestly.

Like, I'd been considering working with Malakath for that sphere discount, but now...I don't think Sollia really wants to deal with that.

That's understandable.

[tntey]

After half watching this conversation about morals and ethics, I think the quote you are look for is the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

[hector13]

After half watching this conversation about morals and ethics, I think the quote you are look for is the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Because trying to be nice is obviously a terrible thing