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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2016, 02:32:03 pm »

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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #121 on: April 27, 2016, 02:33:23 pm »

As far as I'm aware, classes aren't "Examples" like so many others. They just outright are the classes you can choose. Unless Sanure changed their mind about that between writing the OP and now.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #122 on: April 27, 2016, 02:41:46 pm »

steam confirmed it, so yeah, just like, ask
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #123 on: April 27, 2016, 02:45:07 pm »

Then what's the bloody point?

I mean, defining an archetype for your character, yes, but why bother having a list of them?
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2016, 02:47:05 pm »

To prevent any and everyone from picking something like "Wizard" Or "Sci-fy space pirate" or "Master of creation"
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2016, 02:51:29 pm »

Then what's the bloody point?

I mean, defining an archetype for your character, yes, but why bother having a list of them?

For the intent and purpose of Gming, I'll allow it. Mechanically, Akroma is playing a Cleric that doesn't use Prayers or Blessings. She uses tactics. Either way, Charisma is what matters, and she even said it was like a Cleric.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2016, 02:54:27 pm »

To prevent any and everyone from picking something like "Wizard" Or "Sci-fy space pirate" or "Master of creation"
then perhaps consider including an important part of the rules like that into the OP? where the rules are meant to, y'know, be?
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2016, 02:57:10 pm »

You mean like the list of allowed classes in the OP? I mean, I might not be too good at reading, but I could read that bit fine.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #128 on: April 27, 2016, 02:58:47 pm »

The part about mechanically changing classes like Akroma did, he means. That's not stated.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2016, 03:00:50 pm »

I asked Sanure over Steam, and mechanically, Akroma's character is still basically a Cleric. Fluff wise, they just use tactics instead of pseudo-magic.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2016, 03:01:10 pm »

Akroma is literally just playing a reskinned cleric. It's not even a new concept, it's been around as long as there has been RPGs.

Only problem would be the fact that at least two characters would probably hate Akroma's character.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2016, 03:11:08 pm »

Eh, I've decided. I'm staying out of this one for the following reasons:

-High fatality. I really don't feel like filling out a long sheet if my character's going to die, even if they might (emphasis on might- as the OP says, my character's soul MAY just get taken by something else or we just don't have enough money) get resurrected. No point putting that much effort in at all. This is a pretty personal point of mine, since the rest of you clearly are okay with it.

-Lore's a mess. Seriously, we should have a basic lore dump in the OP just so we don't have to keep asking the GM questions. It just makes their lives easier. And, as we saw with Sanure earlier, the GM has their own life and thus things to do that basically make it impractical to keep to this model.

-Mechanics are poorly detailed, or at least the ones that aren't from Trespassers. Anything harder than a normal opposed roll (which is to say, including exponentials) really shouldn't be used, even if the person running it is okay with it, because it overcomplicates things.  The class system is unexplained: what does the preferred stat even do? And if, say, Akroma could just use a reskinned Cleric using Charisma, is there really any point to a class list at all? I mean, if it's to stop people from being Wizards, then just put THAT in the OP instead of expecting to be able to catch every single exception. If nothing else, make your lives easier for it. More or less, the additions and revisions from Trespassers are pretty weak AND need to be more detailed in the OP.

Keep in mind, I'm not really mad at San, Shade, Projeck or anyone who worked or is going to play in this. I'm just explaining my reasons for not wanting to join while simultaneously criticising the fact that there's quite a whole lot of this that really needs to be ironed out before the game starts.

I'll be watching still, in case I change my mind, but I'm staying out for now.

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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2016, 03:13:17 pm »

I must ditto Elf here.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2016, 03:15:51 pm »

I admit to a certain amount of reservations about the mechanics as well (they seem both needlessly complicated and vague) but I will make a sheet for this.
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Re: Frostfell Wastes OOC: Accepting Players
« Reply #134 on: April 27, 2016, 03:17:56 pm »

That is your personal opinion, no more need be said.

Meh.

Crafting in trespassers is a mess, and a lack of archetypes leaves people in an empty void when it comes to character creation.  Archetypes help list out what roles are we are supposed to fill considering the nature of the party.  I don't know what you mean by the revisions, but that is all I have to counter-argue.

Honestly, Just because you can't do whatever you want, and have to interact with the GM does not really mean anything bad about the system.  This is some oddly aimed nitpicking.
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