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[Jack A T]

I'm not sure how much I believe that. It seems odd to me that there are 2 identical roles in the game.

OSG: Meph is not fond of this logic, and deliberately designs his games to allow this to happen.

BHK is able to see your role, and copied it.

That's quite a guess.

Jack AT (It is possile you could have lied and just copied BHK's claim.)

You can't be serious.
My action last night is in the public record, and happened while the remaining scum was separately acting.  Nobody else has claimed my action.  My claim gave a few details BHK did not, details he can confirm.  Persus13, when he next posts, should even explicitly confirm that TDS and I separately changed his post 32 last night.
So, very simply, no, it is not possible that I could have just lied and copied BHK's claim.

But this wild guess isn't about me, is it?  It's a way to keep your BHK vote.  Create doubts about the mechanical confirmation of my role, and my backing of BHK's claim isn't as much of a point in his favour.

Anyway, I notice you never respond to this:

Well, I know that just saying, "I don't like you, therefore die." Is certainly not a very constructive or informative action.
BlackHeartKabal

OSG: I'd like to see you say why the evidence against BHK outweighs the evidence I see in his favour, as summarized in my reads, please.

If you keep up your case, I still want a response here.

Why is it that you refuse to respond?
Oh, and what's your read on Persus13?  You left him out of your list for some reason.
TDS, fillipk: Problem: OSG's also a major possible scum, in addition to Persus and fillipk.

[Persus13]

I'm in the middle of writing a very long paper, so I won't be able to respond to fillipk for awhile. But I should confirm that I felt TDS and Jack A T influencing my posts last night. I wasn't told which post they targeted, but its fairly obvious from the color changes.

[fillipk]

Unvote

TDS I feel we are in less danger from the scum then we are from you.  The scum don't appear to be able to affect many posts anymore and we have enough people to counter them.  On the other hand we are in a lot of danger if you an arso so I think you are the safer lynch today.

[Deus Asmoth]

Why do you want to prioritize lynching a third party over just ending the game?

[Mephansteras]

The Vote Tally
BlackHeartKabal: origamiscienceguy
fillipk: Deus Asmoth
origamiscienceguy: Jack A T
Persus13: TheDarkStar
TheDarkStar: BlackHeartKabal, fillipk, Persus13


Day ends ~4pm Pacific Friday

[Jack A T]

Everyone: I don't trust TDS, but even in the theoretical case of him being an arsonist, he would have either no chance or a very low chance of victory, depending on composition of the dead, if he arsonkilled tonight.  Let him live for now.

[BlackHeartKabal]

Everyone: I don't trust TDS, but even in the theoretical case of him being an arsonist, he would have either no chance or a very low chance of victory, depending on composition of the dead, if he arsonkilled tonight.  Let him live for now.

You're telling the town to make a potentially fatal mistake, Jack. He's the safest lynch.

[fillipk]

Why do you want to prioritize lynching a third party over just ending the game?

As I stated The third party is potentially more dangerous and a safer lynch, plus during the night people can check my claim and show that I wasn't lying about my power making the next day lynch easier

[fillipk]

Also the scum are less dangerous then the arson as far as we know

[Jack A T]

If he's an arsonist, as has been theorized, we are guaranteed one safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, because TDS wouldn't actively ruin his chance of victory.  If he's a spore-spreader-equivalent (which I could see) (see the Paranormal games, by the same mod), we've got one guaranteed safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, too.

The real risk comes from letting him live D4.  For today, he's a cooperative and active voter, at least.

[fillipk]

If he's an arsonist, as has been theorized, we are guaranteed one safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, because TDS wouldn't actively ruin his chance of victory.  If he's a spore-spreader-equivalent (which I could see) (see the Paranormal games, by the same mod), we've got one guaranteed safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, too.

The real risk comes from letting him live D4.  For today, he's a cooperative and active voter, at least.

Fair, if that's the case my vote is for Persus.

[BlackHeartKabal]

If he's an arsonist, as has been theorized, we are guaranteed one safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, because TDS wouldn't actively ruin his chance of victory.  If he's a spore-spreader-equivalent (which I could see) (see the Paranormal games, by the same mod), we've got one guaranteed safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, too.

The real risk comes from letting him live D4.  For today, he's a cooperative and active voter, at least.

I have no idea what a Spore Spreader is, is that some arsonist variant that just has to visit everyone?

[Jack A T]

BHK: Close enough.  It's a specific third party role in Meph's Paranormal series of games.  The relevant variant needs to have basically visited all surviving players.  In those games, there is no indication that it prevents other factions from winning, though, but I'm playing it as safe as I realistically feel I can in my estimations.

[TheDarkStar]

fillipk:

If he's an arsonist, as has been theorized, we are guaranteed one safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, because TDS wouldn't actively ruin his chance of victory.  If he's a spore-spreader-equivalent (which I could see) (see the Paranormal games, by the same mod), we've got one guaranteed safe night if we lynch any real suspect except fillipk, too.

The real risk comes from letting him live D4.  For today, he's a cooperative and active voter, at least.

Fair, if that's the case my vote is for Persus.

...no vote?

BHK: Who are your top mafia suspects?

Everyone who hasn't posted reads yet: Please do so.

[BlackHeartKabal]

I have to rest, and then head out tomorrow. I'll propose to Extend if you'd like to give me time for reads.