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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2016, 04:38:10 am »

You could try staying a bit closer to home and see if you can get a software engineering job in the Philippines. Might not be much of a step up, but I don't think you'll have to pay to be allowed to work there and live out of a cardbox.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2016, 09:12:47 am »

I actually want to immigrate to Kuala Lumpur.

Parenthian islands are just a ride away, worlds most beautiful jungles are just next to you. One side Adamant sea, one side China sea...
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2016, 10:28:26 am »

... you know, I find the idea of living in a land of always winter oddly appealing...



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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2016, 09:44:35 pm »

... you know, I find the idea of living in a land of always winter oddly appealing...
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2016, 04:50:42 pm »

If you care about internet speed, you could try England. Washington DC or Southern California might be an option if you can stomach the US (Stay far away from the southeast and midwest!). India is also decent in IT standards, but if you aren't already Indian you'll probably get mugged.
Boston tends to be a little snooty... the kind of people who speak Latin, play 5 instruments, and compare Socrates and Ibn Rushd.

DC is incredibly snooty, as well as London. South Cal would be a good place for intellectual conversations, given its diversity.

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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2016, 05:40:59 pm »


There's a lot of idiots around here who make a lot of money but aren't that intelligent. That's why I'm on Bay12 instead of actually talking with flesh-and-blood human beings.


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Well. That throws a flying wrench into the image I had of Sillicon Valley.

Silicon Valley/SF seems like an obvious choice, but visa is really tough.

Silicon Valley is a hellhole right now. I really don't recommend moving here unless you get a senior job at somewhere like Google. The junior employees are being churned like meat and the cost of living has gone up something like 50% in the past year.


Cost of Living I can see going up because with all the money being focused on the area's tech companies who are swimming in cash.

1. Can you tell me more about J.Employees being churned like meat? Just curious really.

As for the 'don't get a job unless it's a senior' position. Meh, Anything is safer (even though nothing is technically fool proof) when it's a seniour position.

I would recomend North Carolina who is sorta like Silicon Valley because they have this thing called the Technological Triangle or some such. It's basically where IBM, A research institue, and some fancy N.C University are located. The three hire/train a bunch of geeks from what I've heard of (this is in the internet though).

Another good place would be Miami, Florida. It's tech industry isn't anywhere near as strong but their are quite a bit of start ups and Miami has been trying to become like Silicon Valley but is still VERY infantile in it's phases. Everyone is excited for it, my college/other newspapers have published about the activity, and their have been some confrences about the idea. Now this is specific to coding.

In the IT front Florida in general is HUNGRY for geeks who can fix granny's cell phone issues. I'd like to say theirs space for more IT companies/consultancies but I'm not confident enough to say that. In general I just hear alot of good things about IT in the area and think that from the small experiences i've had in the field (although again small) it seems like a thriving buisness. Theirs just alot of need for people to fix grannys tech issues.

For Miami English AND spanish are good. English your fine in it seems but Spanish is sorta like a secondary language because the superb amount of cubans here. I've never lived in North Carolina though so I don't know what to say about it.


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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2016, 06:30:01 pm »

Malaysia sucks. A lot of reasons which I won't get into now. With the direction society and politics is going, I'll be willing to change citizenship.

So what's a good country to go to?

I'm a software engineer. I've had some entrepreneurial background so anything that recognizes that would be good. But I'd like somewhere I can focus on writing really good code, instead of hacking one thing after another.

Silicon Valley/SF seems like an obvious choice, but visa is really tough. So any other secondary locations would be good.

I've heard that much of Asia can be a little racist and it'd be good to know that from an insider's perspective.

Scandinavia is good bet, though their immigration laws vary. Denmark is listed as "the happiest place". They have a good understanding of balancing work and downtime. It's not particularly warm but there are some nice summers.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2016, 06:56:50 pm »

NZ's like Scandinavia but slightly less good. On the plus side, we have fewer snowstorms, fewer taxes, and fewer Swedes.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2016, 07:12:21 pm »

Miami and India are well within the top ten places you'll most likely get mugged at.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2016, 07:29:08 pm »

NZ's like Scandinavia but slightly less good. On the plus side, we have fewer snowstorms, fewer taxes, and fewer Swedes.

I'd say that you should leave the Swedes alone but I'm tired of them crossing the bridge just to drink our beer!
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2016, 04:06:45 am »

I actually want to immigrate to Kuala Lumpur.

Parenthian islands are just a ride away, worlds most beautiful jungles are just next to you. One side Adamant sea, one side China sea...

Yeah the place is nice to visit, nice to live in. Not so nice to work in.

Traffic jams are horrible - expect a 3 hour daily commute to work in KL, unless you get an "expat" salary to live somewhere decent. That commute includes people threatening to ram their cars into yours, and cutting you off. It's a nightmare for people from places like UK or Australia, where people actually queue up properly.

The politics are really nasty. There's a lot of bullshit to deal with. Promotions, career advancement, etc all depend on how much bullshit you're willing to take and how long you're willing to be stepped on. Unlike many real jobs where career advancement depends on how well you do your job. The country has a very authoritarian culture, I guess much like the rest of Asia.

If you want something relaxing and unambitious, Malaysia is the place to go.

You could try staying a bit closer to home and see if you can get a software engineering job in the Philippines. Might not be much of a step up, but I don't think you'll have to pay to be allowed to work there and live out of a cardbox.

The good regional tech companies are based in Thailand, Indonesia, or Singapore. Might as well go those places over Philippines.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2016, 08:32:10 pm »

As far as Southern California goes, San Diego is a good place. Orange County isn't bad either. I'd stay out of LA, but then pretty much anyone who isn't from LA prefers to stay out of it. Weather is quite good if you like heat.

Cost of living is kinda high but not bad for a good programmer. Lots of tech jobs, certainly.

I'm not aware of any particular issues for muslims here. I've certainly had a few coworkers who seemed to be doing fine and I see plenty of ladies with head scarves around town. Being California the laws are very anti-discrimination, although I'm sure you can find plenty if jerks if you look for them.

Conversation wise I've found it to be quite good. Lots of interesting people to talk to, and a thriving board gaming culture if you're into that.

You can also find some random spots in the US that are surprisingly good for tech jobs. Des Moines, Iowa, for example, seems to be building itself up as a decent spot.
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2016, 03:59:45 am »

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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
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Re: What is a good country to migrate to?
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2016, 12:47:18 pm »

I've been thinking about leaving America. New Zealand and Britain sound like nice places that aren't horribly crowded, have cold-ish weather, and have tech demand.
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