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[Vuohijumala]

Hi there. I'm not sure if this is old or new stuff, but I found one of my militia dwarves just standing in one spot in the middle of an alcohol stockpile. Apparently he went for a drink, but a confrontation with goblins left him unable to grasp anything with motor nerves broken in each hand. I watched him stand there doing nothing for a while, and then forgot about the matter. Later, he was found dead by dehydration on the same exact spot. He did have "drink" listed as his current task, if I remember correctly, but there were no job cancellation messages. There also was a mug lying on the same tile with him. I'd guess he perpetually tried to pick up the mug and have a drink from it. Without working hands.

I tried to search for more information regarding the matter and from what I read, at least in older versions handless dwarves should still be able to drink and eat. The older versions didn't have dwarves picking up mugs, though. Anyone else been experiencing this?

[khearn]

Yup, I've had a dwarf die of dehydration in the middle of my tavern's booze stockpile. Same situation, unable to grasp the mug. I've been told that if he couldn't get a mug he'd just drink out of the barrel. But that would require a mugless fort, which results in lots of bad feelings.

I don't know of a good solution.

Maybe if you get a dwarf that's unable to grasp with both hands, you should just use him as a cavern explorer.

[Crashmaster]

A several z-level drop directly into the hospital?

[Vuohijumala]

Aw, crap. So, it's an issue then. Well, I guess dwarves without grasp would be quite useless anyway. On the other hand, the death they face craving that sweet, sweet dwarven ale and staring at a mug unable to lift it sounds like the dwarven equivalent of hell..

A several z-level drop directly into the hospital?

Maybe if you get a dwarf that's unable to grasp with both hands, you should just use him as a cavern explorer.

Very reasonable ideas to keep in mind for the future. Although, the last dwarf I sent to the caverns is still alive unliberated from his mental condition.

[Starweaver396]

Aw, crap. So, it's an issue then. Well, I guess dwarves without grasp would be quite useless anyway. On the other hand, the death they face craving that sweet, sweet dwarven ale and staring at a mug unable to lift it sounds like the dwarven equivalent of hell..

A several z-level drop directly into the hospital?

Maybe if you get a dwarf that's unable to grasp with both hands, you should just use him as a cavern explorer.

Very reasonable ideas to keep in mind for the future. Although, the last dwarf I sent to the caverns is still alive unliberated from his mental condition.

Use him as bait for werecreatures. If he survives, he'll get his hands back. If he dies, at least you'll know there's a werebeast on the map.

Edit: Odd little error there.

[PatrikLundell]

It's sufficient to ensure the crippled dorf cannot reach any mugs, in which case he'll drink directly from the barrel. You could, for instance, set up a burrow at a place with booze but no mugs. I'm not sure if forbidding or dumping the mug he's holding will cause him to stop trying to use it. If it doesn't, DFHack has a command to teleport all dump designated objects to a selected tile, so if you don't have anything else dump designated you could strip the mug from him that way (after ensuring he's burrowed so he don't fetch another one).

[King Kitteh]

Yea Dwarves with no grasp create tons of problems. Like job cancelling spam and such. In the future this should be fixed, (they shouldn't take jobs they can't do due to lack of grasp) and they should drink directly from barrels.

But for now, I just exile them or murder them. Severely injuring them so that they are stuck in a hospital might also work, as they will be given water by other dwarves.

One thing I'd like in the future though is for dwarves to be given specific single task prosthetics.
Imagine a dwarf with no arm, but instead a wooden pole attached to his shoulder which has an inbuilt cupholder.

[Bradders]

One thing I'd like in the future though is for dwarves to be given specific single task prosthetics.
Imagine a dwarf with no arm, but instead a wooden pole attached to his shoulder which has an inbuilt cupholder.

Like Captain Hook, has a selection of attachable hand-tools.  Or for a Forgotten Realms reference, like Belwar Dissengulp.  This is too dwarvish to NOT have!

[King Kitteh]

One thing I'd like in the future though is for dwarves to be given specific single task prosthetics.
Imagine a dwarf with no arm, but instead a wooden pole attached to his shoulder which has an inbuilt cupholder.

Like Captain Hook, has a selection of attachable hand-tools.  Or for a Forgotten Realms reference, like Belwar Dissengulp.  This is too dwarvish to NOT have!

I just looked Belwar Dissengulp up on the google and that is insanely metal. I was pretty much thinking the same thing for my prosphetics idea. I particularily want it for militia dwarves. Having a dwarf with a blade on his arm stump, or even a crossbow is pretty metal in my opinion.

[Libash_Thunderhead]

Or you destroy/forbid all mugs so they all drink directly from barrels.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=155964

[Sefarian]

Or the dwarves could just invent straws. 

[King Kitteh]

Or the dwarves could just invent straws. 

What did you think that +wooden pipe section+ was for?

[Sefarian]

A trial run for future magma transportation design?

[King Kitteh]

I hope that pump wasn't manually operated... Oh wait, yes I do.

[MobRules]

Also: you better hope that a dwarf is wearing armor when they lose their ability to grasp, because they won't be putting any new clothing items again ever. Thus, if they are wearing clothing instead of armor, it will eventually rot away, leaving them naked and very unhappy about it.

I'm hoping that eventually the simulation will allow a dwarf that can't dress himself to get help from his comrades. But at the moment, they'll just step over him and keep walking.