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PlusBigNeigh
Every Spring, HeNeighs woohoo with SheNeighs. Sometimes Big HeNeighs woohoos, and we got another Big Neigh. Sometimes Small HeNeighs woohoos, and we get another Small Neigh. We need to make sure that only the PlusBig HeNeighs are only allowed to woohoo with SheNeighs. Those NotSoBig HeNeighs should be separated from the SheNeighs and they should go to war.

We can also do the same on Roars if possible.

Selective Breeding anyone?

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[RAM]

Wouldn't endurance and control be more useful?

[evilcherry]

Wouldn't endurance and control be more useful?

(The principles should be the same. Depending on how our tribesmen think of their useful qualities)

[vkiNm]

PlusBigNeigh
Every Spring, HeNeighs woohoo with SheNeighs. Sometimes Big HeNeighs woohoos, and we got another Big Neigh. Sometimes Small HeNeighs woohoos, and we get another Small Neigh. We need to make sure that only the PlusBig HeNeighs are only allowed to woohoo with SheNeighs. Those NotSoBig HeNeighs should be separated from the SheNeighs and they should go to war.

We can also do the same on Roars if possible.

Selective Breeding anyone?

+1

+1

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

PlusBigNeigh
Bigger neighs are trained for war and used in breeding more neighs.  Smaller neighs killed for meat.

(Image not included due to imgur being a pain to have accept the background is supposed to be transparent.  Not a clue why, just that that is happening.)


War

Small fights occur over the crossing.  Others force back tribe attacks and tribe forces back other attacks.  They seem to set up huts made of sticks leaning against each other and animal skin between the sticks.  Take while to set up right and seen to fall over in wind sometimes.

Small number of floaty skin baskets limit number that can go to other bank.  Not enough right now to make good attack, but enough to scout.  Find their village upriver and short distance from river.  Seem to have been hit hard by two prior battles, but many still remain.

(Warscore: 33% favorable)


Tribe

Scouts heading deep into forest find strange area.  Big lake upon top of hill, with edge being extremely steep.  Shiny black rock other tribe use found around it.  Some think other tribe might use it because it would be good for weapons and tools, others unsure.

Spoiler: Your Tribe (click to show/hide)

Tribe Name:
Roarneigh

Occupations
Chief
Elders
Hunters
Gatherers
Sharpeners
Braiders
Riders
Potters
Food Preparers
Millers
Runners
Crossing Defenders
Raftmen

Weapons:
Hit Thing - Sticks and stones may break your bones, but the Hit Thing definitely will. The latest invention by the famed innovator Uggmugg, this design is as simple as it is beautiful: a rock on the end of a stick tied together with vine wrapped around the two. Now you can hit things with the power of rocks and with the range of sticks. (Stick, Rock, Vine)
Pointy stick - A long stick that is three Longbones long with a sharpened rock tied on the end with vines,it can be thrown at anything running away or used to protect yourself from anything running to you,it should be used with the hit thing. (Long stick, Sharp rock, Vines)
Stick Thrower - Long stick with notch in end that cups non-pointy end of pointy stick., Holding notched stick and put pointy stick into notch can make pointy stick go farther.  Hard to hit target often.  Hard to use from Neighs. (Pointy Stick(many), Big Stick, Sharp Rock)

Tools:
Hit Thing - See Weapons entry.
Sharp Rock - Sharpened rock good for cutting things. Made by rubbing and chipping the rock with other rocks. (Rock)
Rope - Wet Straws in water river a day long makes straws soft and easy to "braid".  You braid like "this and that" and make rope, like vine but stronger and longer vine. (Straw)
Pots - Container made from clay burnt in fire.  Base is flat and top open.  Helps store food. (Clay, Pain Light)
Nets - A weave made from vines or rope that allows for better catching of fish. (Rope)
Better Memory Holder - Clay put on rock and marked using stick.  Can become flat with time, but far slower than Pain Light dust rubbing off.  When return, Pain Light dust put into gaps to increase ability to see.  (Pain Light, Clay, Flat Rock, Stick)
Floaty skin basket - A frame of branches with skin stretched over in the shape of a big bowl that can carry three hunters.  Flat wood to push water with and move Floaty Skin forwards. Limited amounts of clay used to prevent water from getting in. It takes two men to carry. If water is calm, the river can be crossed in areas not crossing area. Our fishing people could also use them for getting swimmers. It is hard to make these due to difficulty in skinning animal skin in a usable way.
Resources: Rope, Clay, Sticks, Usable Animal Skin [Difficult]

Buildings:
Sleep Hut - A large hut made of leaning long sticks against a tree and tying them together with vines.  It is circular and has no floor covering. (Vines, Trees)

Technology:
New Bone System - A four part system for measuring items using bones.  The Bigbone is a bone equal in height to the tallest tribes member at the time of the system's creation.  The next step down is the Longbone, roughly the length of a man's leg  Smallbones are roughly the length of a foot.  Tinybones are the smallest unit of measurement, at about the size of an index finger.
Sharp Rock - See Tools Entry.
Pain Light - Bright light made by rubbing two sticks together among dry grass.  Very hot.  Cooks meat good. (Sticks)
Milling - Grinding down plants to a powder.
Bigger Neigh Breeding - Bigger neighs are trained for war and used in breeding more neighs.  Smaller neighs killed for meat.

Animals
Neighs
Roars

Resources
Stick
Long Stick
Tree
Rock
Vine
Straw
Salt
Clay
Grain Pollen

Food
Grained Grass
Red Berries
Blue Berries
Orange Berries
Swimmer Meat
Antler Meat
Hairy Horn Meat
Neigh Meat
Grain

Red - Salted and/or Roasted

Spoiler: Other Tribe (click to show/hide)

Weapons
String Things - A small rope tied between two ends of stick.  Used to throw small, sharp sticks.
Chop Thing - A hit thing with rock on it.  Good for chopping branches or enemies.
Really Pointy Stick - Looks like our pointy stick, but has sharp, black rock that is really shiny at end.

Tools
Land Picture - Carries images of area near tribe lands.

Buildings
Cone Hut - Made of animal skin over sticks leaning against each other.  Sometimes fall over with wind.  Can be setup away from trees.

Animals
Snarls

Begin Design Phase

Hey Zan, howmany digits does one of our tribes people have on their hands? Im thinking of getting counting in soon.

I've been working on the basis that these are prehistoric humans, but if something else is desired, you can change it as you wish.  Only real limiters that I can think of are the facts that the species isn't amphibious, has an ability to make and manipulate tools, is an omnivore, and can ride horses in some way.

[Aseaheru]

Base ten it is.

-edit-

Going to get a new measurement system/counting system design in soonish.

[evilcherry]

Catch Pointy Things

A wooden frame, Longbone by Bigbone, covered and filled with straw, ropes, or anything fluffy. Must be man-portable. Bonus if it can float.


We can now laugh off their obsidian javelins.

[Parsely]

If there's too much wood it will be too heavy, and I think straw can be packed thick enough to be good armor but it needs something to hold the straw in. How about this?

Stick Stopper
Shield woven from fibers, then dried in the sun.

Swimmer Sticker
Barbed harpoon made from Antler antlers. Affixed to the end of a long stick with fibers. These can be thrown at swimmers to catch them. Even if Swimmers can still swim after being poked, the weight of the Swimmer Sticker will stop it from escaping or being carried away by the current. The Swimmer can them be retrieved.

Sticky Water
Cook logs inside clay pots with airtight lids. The resulting tar is an extremely useful adhesive.

[evilcherry]

The straw can be packed in bundles of half a tinybone in diameter, tied up with more straw. 2 layers of such bundles should be sufficient against javelins.

It is intended to be used as a field fortification, not something you can run with. I deliberately avoided shields or bucklers as it is not standing a chance against obsidian javelins.

[High tyrol]

Stick Stopper
Shield woven from fibers, then dried in the sun.

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[vkiNm]

Catch Pointy Things

A wooden frame, Longbone by Bigbone, covered and filled with straw, ropes, or anything fluffy. Must be man-portable. Bonus if it can float.


We can now laugh off their obsidian javelins.

1+

+1 Yes please.

[Parsely]

It is intended to be used as a field fortification, not something you can run with. I deliberately avoided shields or bucklers as it is not standing a chance against obsidian javelins.

I disagree. People used wicker shields for thousands of years for slapping down javelins that are better made than the ones we're facing now.

[Aseaheru]

Wicker is slightly different than just compacted straw.

Anyways, have finger count, AKA roman numerals. Also contained within, example of the biggest flaw of the fourbone system.

Spoiler: Finger Count (click to show/hide)

 Inorder to help keep track of how many of whatever is about, one of our hunters has developed "Finger Count". Simply put, one thing is one finger, written as an I on a memory holder. One hand is recorded as a V. Between the two we have II, III and IV. Two hands is X, and the "digits" between one hand and two hands are VI, VII, VIII and IX.

Two hand hands is represented with an *.

Now, the main use of this system, according to the hunter, is to keep track of howmany a thing there are. There is a secondary use, to keep track of howmany bones something is beyond generic things like "tree bone" and "river bend bone"(roughly two hand hands bigbones and two hand hands tree bone in length, respectively.)

[Parsely]

Wicker is dried plant fibers! That's what I was proposing. I suppose the straw is pointless. Just make layers of fibers until you have a thick, hard shield.

[Sanctume]

We already know how to weave via nets using not just straw but vines, which can be considered flat / plant fibers. 

I am not sure how our leather hide tanning tech at this point, but I proposed, and worth looking into again:

My idea is having defense versus bow and arrow.
Propose:

Name: Thick Skin (armor: boiled leather)
Description: Animals skins cut to shape to our body using sharp rock, then put in water in pottery under fire make skin tough from sharp things.  Tie ropes on thick skin around body for protection.
Resources: Animals (Antler, Hairy Horn, Neigh) skin, water, pot, fire, rope.

Name: Hard Wood (armor: shield)
Description: Cut long sticks almost as tall as body, and as wide as body.  Tie sticks together with ropes, and Thick Skin, with extra rope to hold Hard Wood between me and other tribe's thrown sharp stick with String Things.
Resources: Sticks, Animals (Antler, Hairy Horn, Neigh) skin, water, pot, fire, rope.