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FUCK YES LET'S LEAVE GET HYPE YEY

Casual yes, let's leave and get independence done with

Meh, probably just scribble all over my vote ballot to spite tryhards

Casual no, let's remain and get integration done with

FUCK NO LET'S REMAIN GET CALM YEY

[Starver]

Don't be salty

You, and others, keep talking of salt. The intention is obvious, but the meaning remains obscure.  Is it a 4chan thing?

[Neonivek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYIKF1wuyE

Auto-tune the news episode with Nigel in it.

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This is the last I heard of this guy. I am actually a bit surprised how important he actually is.

[Loud Whispers]

so the millions of British citizens living in EU countries and the millions of other EU citizens living in Britain how F****d are they?

Stuff is gonna be status quo until around 2018-2020

Unfortunately for everyone, as near as I've been able to tell the leave side of things actually had no idea what the blue hell they were going to do if the referendum fell in their favor :V

I think you missed the part where the guy in charge of what to do in that outcome was on the Remain campaign lol, it'd have been impossible to conduct a plan with resources that aren't yours or even known to you

As it stands, brief rundown of what is happening

• BOE and top illuminati banks stabilize world currencies as best as they can. BOE is focused on the stability of Sterling, shoring up the London stock exchange and ensuring Banks have capital to lend. ECB will try to stabilize the Euro and use this instability to create a proper banking union for the EU. Americans laughing because everyone is buying US dollar
  
• Cameron persists until October where once a modicum of stability is ensured, power is handed over to his successor for de facto withdrawal from the EU. Whoever succeeds Cameron will be able to begin delivering on their campaign promises, notably if either Boris or Corbyn rises to power they can now enact policies that would be stopped by European judges or treaties without having to worry about having violated them.
• Also the Swiss are rather happy, they have kept everything in Swissorlan under control very well, pays to have gold reserves

Central banks have already taken centre stage; the Swiss National Bank has intervened in the currency markets to cap the franc, the Bank of England, the European Central Bank, the US Federal Reserve and the Indian central bank, among others, have all promised to provide necessary liquidity to support markets.
The eurozone has been hit particularly hard by the turmoil, with the Dax tanking as much as 10 per cent this morning.
Attention has turned to the ECB, with analysts pondering what its next moves might be and what tools it has left if things get messier.
More QE and further stimulus
Rabobank strategists suggest the odds are increasing that the ECB will be called upon to provide yet further stimulus to support core European debt markets beyond March 2017. They say there is a “notable likelihood” the bank’s asset purchase programme will be extended.
http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/06/24/what-does-brexit-mean-for-the-ecb/

Hope you guys like QE

More exits out of the EU could challenge its institutions, such as the European Central Bank, which has played a huge role in the continent's tepid recovery from the global financial crisis.

"You don't know what's going to happen over the weekend," says Kleintop. "Do we start to see a break down in Europe that would render the European Central Bank unable to conduct monetary policy?"

My guess is no, we won't see that now, but another exit later may cause this

When the European Union member states drafted and then approved the Treaty of Lisbon in 2007, they did not think anyone would ever want to leave ‒ it was a few years before the Eurozone crisis, and the bloc was still glowing from its watershed expansion eastwards.

So when, for the first time in its history, the EU included an article – the now-infamous Article 50 ‒ for a potential exit, they left it deliberately vague.

“The Treaty of Lisbon was drafted with the idea that [Article 50] would not be used, and to make it pretty hard to exit in a smooth way,” says Chris Bickerton, a lecturer at Cambridge University and author of The European Union: A Citizen’s Guide.

When did it all get so smug

[Starver]

I would honestly love to see The UK to turn back into Britain.

I honestly don't know why Scotland, North Ireland, and Wales put up with it beyond dependency and tradition at this point.

It isn't like Britain respects them (well maybe Wales)

One of the few times I've seen "Britain" used where "England" seems to have been intended, rather than the other way round... 

[EnigmaticHat]

LW, are you a kitchenbot for the Financial Times?

[Loud Whispers]

LW, are you a kitchenbot for the Financial Times?

Nope, they just seem to be one of the only news media branches giving a shit about what the banks are doing right now, everyone else seems more focused on calling for an end to democracy

Also a highly amusing hypothetical about article 50 is that the British government could choose to never invoke it by never officially informing the EU of its desire to leave
The UK could in theory drag this on in perpetuity

[mainiac]

And the left and right axes don't match

Shit, I was in such a rush to get to an appointment that I didn't notice.  Here is the correct graph:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SadMlAQLCxNGtrVmlqekNoa1U/view

Hopefully that's a lot more clear.  China's growth has been trending downwards and India has gone from falling behind to catching up in the past couple years.

[Loud Whispers]

Don't be salty

You, and others, keep talking of salt. The intention is obvious, but the meaning remains obscure.  Is it a 4chan thing?

It first entered my vocabulary due to time spent in the CCF RN, which makes sense cos it seems to have been around in the US Navy since the world wars

It seems to have gained mainstream popularity as a result of MOBAs, wherein easily irritated players were frequently described as salty
Twitter likewise aided considerably in the spread of salty, usually during election times you will see a thousand variations of "all these flavours and you choose to be salty" for example

And the left and right axes don't match

Shit, I was in such a rush to get to an appointment that I didn't notice.  Here is the correct graph:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SadMlAQLCxNGtrVmlqekNoa1U/view

Hopefully that's a lot more clear.  China's growth has been trending downwards and India has gone from falling behind to catching up in the past couple years.

India has just 49m income-tax payers out of a population of 1.2 billion.

Do we have an Indian Ocean politics thread cos this corruption is unreal
India could do so much

[Leafsnail]

"Salty" is unfunny meme for "upset".

Also a highly amusing hypothetical about article 50 is that the British government could choose to never invoke it by never officially informing the EU of its desire to leave
The UK could in theory drag this on in perpetuity

Except for the part where the EU kicks us out.

[Loud Whispers]

"Salty" is unfunny meme for "upset".

You sound salty, with salty being a quality that results in state of being of upsetness

Except for the part where the EU kicks us out.

They'd have to craft new legislation to do so, as in their arrogance they left in article 50 as an afterthought and spent their entire legislative existence creating mechanisms to further integration, not decentralization, and have no mechanisms to kick a member out. After article 50 is invoked, god knows what negotiations will look like, because the EU isn't fond on transparency lol. More in a thought experiment way though, as I expect Cameron's successor to invoke article 50 ASAP, there is no mechanism to force a country into invoking article 50, no mechanism to have a country expelled. That this referendum is also not legally binding means we could have a hundred more PMs and have none of them invoke article 50. Needless to say, I am hopeful that whatever EU members remain at the end of all this, manage to reform the EU into an actual democracy that functions as democracy

[Frumple]

"Salty" is unfunny meme for "upset".

Though for the question of origin, iirc it's actually got its roots in stuff older than the internet. Used to be related to sailors in particular, from what I recall. If nothing else, a quick check showed that salty (salty dog, in particular, though that's got some other meanings, too) was used to reference to being ornery at least as far back as T-Bone Walker (So somewhere between 1910 and 1975). It's been around for a while.

[Loud Whispers]

Slang is memes now

[hector13]

I would honestly love to see The UK to turn back into Britain.

I honestly don't know why Scotland, North Ireland, and Wales put up with it beyond dependency and tradition at this point.

It isn't like Britain respects them (well maybe Wales)

One of the few times I've seen "Britain" used where "England" seems to have been intended, rather than the other way round... 

Fackin' foreigners. They can never get it right. Prob'ly why they voted Leave.

[Max™]

Oh yeah, I'm sure some of you know of it, but if you haven't, go find and read The Laundry Files books, all of them.

Anyways, as it's a government agency dealing with fun topics like health insurance and the end of the world, they have things like codenames for different types of catastrophes. CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN gets a lot of attention, but there are a few of them, and Stross half-jokingly mentioned a world where brexit went through as CASE NIGHTMARE TWEED. I would much prefer an Accelerando/Rapture of the Nerds world than a Laundry one, dammit.

[Starver]

Except for the part where the EU kicks us out.

Big hints that we won't be allowed to dawdle.

Now that it has (barely!) been established that we want to leave, despite my own feelings, I think we need to go fast and hard.

Re-establish the Republic of/Northern Ireland border.  Stockpile materials for a potential Scottish fence.  Nationalise the steelworks to create the necessary metal for that. Start to ramp up military hardware, simultaneously. Reverse the armed forces de-recruitment plans, demothball the second aircraft carrier and construct new patroln ships, send military units down the Chunnel to better control the 'British zone' at that end. Revoke all visa-waivering. Build that Boris Island as the International air-portal, with segmented zones to allow greater- and lesser-priviledged national carriers/originating visitors to be kept segregated....

Or not. But we do need to establish both our national USP and also pull a lot of our external needs (e.g. energy and food supplies) homeward. If we're going to be insular, let's do it properly. (Not that the current government, even under the next leader-presumptive, will ever spend money to save money.  It'll continue to cut costs, ineffectually, to thus actually cost of our economy much more.)