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IF YOU COULD VOTE TO LEAVE OR REMAIN WITHIN THE EUROPEAN UNION AS A SUBJECT OF HRH (PBUH) WITH PERMANENT RESIDENCE IN THE UK OR CITIZENSHIP ABROAD, HOW WOULD YOU VOTE?

FUCK YES LET'S LEAVE GET HYPE YEY
Casual yes, let's leave and get independence done with
Meh, probably just scribble all over my vote ballot to spite tryhards
Casual no, let's remain and get integration done with
FUCK NO LET'S REMAIN GET CALM YEY

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Sheb

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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1245 on: June 27, 2016, 01:42:59 am »

17,410,742 racists. Dear god.

Oh, come on, even the drunken Euractiv reporters I had dinner with didn't think more than 6 or 7 milliions of them were racists.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1246 on: June 27, 2016, 02:08:09 am »

There's apparently already a new term for the fact that some people regret how they voted, and who would now vote differently, 'regrexit'. Example vids: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=he9FQ2xTD9o and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7eROGVu1xc0

It might also just be the initial shock though, I dunno how many will still feel that way once the dust settles down a little more. No idea how many of the leavers think like this or if it would change the outcome in the event of a new referendum. All too early to tell. Still, it's a thing.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1247 on: June 27, 2016, 02:12:07 am »

Besides it isn't like we didn't know there would be Buyer's remorse in this situation.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1248 on: June 27, 2016, 02:18:29 am »

Would it? I didn't expect so much of it. But then, the vote result WAS very narrow.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1249 on: June 27, 2016, 02:19:55 am »

It's vastly overblown, the actual polls shows that the percentage of Brexiters who're unhappy with the referendum is 1%. Literally 1%.

Do not underestimate the sheer magnitude of Internet's "Hyperbolic" echo chamber.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1250 on: June 27, 2016, 02:28:02 am »

Seeing how close the vote was though, isn't that still rather significant? Also, most of the polls showed that remain would probably win, yet here we are. Though it's still more data than what I've heard till now on this, so thanks either way.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1251 on: June 27, 2016, 02:35:13 am »

If you swapped the numbers around; 1% of people who voted leave are unhappy that they are leaving, whereas 4% of people who voted remain are happy they are leaving.

So the result would pretty much be the same.

Of course, I have no idea what the sample size is.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1252 on: June 27, 2016, 02:36:25 am »

I don't think it's significant enough to turn back the nationalistic pride

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Geez, I'm getting saltier about this by the day. LW, do you wanna change the poll to "salty" vs. "not salty"?
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1253 on: June 27, 2016, 02:36:59 am »

Seeing how close the vote was though, isn't that still rather significant? Also, most of the polls showed that remain would probably win, yet here we are. Though it's still more data than what I've heard till now on this, so thanks either way.

Given that Leave was roughly half the votes, that means it's only half a percent of the total voters. Margin was close to 2%. So without changing the voting numbers in any other way, even if you flipped all those unhappy Leave voters over to remain, it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Also ignoring that 4% of the Remain voters are happy with a Leave outcome.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1254 on: June 27, 2016, 02:42:10 am »

I think leavers lost quite the support since a) they publicly said they gonna do jack shit about labor movement and b) they acknowledged the 350gorillion to NHS campaign was bullshit

but too late for that :P
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1255 on: June 27, 2016, 03:45:42 am »

Seeing how close the vote was though, isn't that still rather significant? Also, most of the polls showed that remain would probably win, yet here we are. Though it's still more data than what I've heard till now on this, so thanks either way.

Given that Leave was roughly half the votes, that means it's only half a percent of the total voters. Margin was close to 2%. So without changing the voting numbers in any other way, even if you flipped all those unhappy Leave voters over to remain, it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Also ignoring that 4% of the Remain voters are happy with a Leave outcome.

Was thinking more in the direction of the influence it could have in the event of a revote. Either way, like I said it's too early to conclude anything really either way, we'll know more as more of these kinds of polls come in.

I'm curious though as to the reasons why some remain voters would be happy with the result, perhaps the response of the EU played a part. One other reason I've heard went along the line of "some people voted remain out of fear of the possible consequences, but now that it's done they're happy others did it". Or perhaps they were Scots who are happy the result might lead to Scottish independence?

Small note: this poll asked 'are you happy with the result' not 'would you change your vote', though of course one somewhat implies the other.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1256 on: June 27, 2016, 03:47:36 am »

The FTSE isn't actually looking too bad, we've mostly recovered from the initial dive. Still, nothing has actually happened yet, so I'm still dubious about the economic benefits of leaving.

Poor Gaelic. Wonder if the Welsh still dream of being a country.
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« Reply #1257 on: June 27, 2016, 04:16:25 am »

In hindsight, they should have given the referendum's higher requirements then a simple majority. It would have saved Cameron the heartache he's in now, and it wouldn't have come off as particularly scummy if argued right: "We hardly want to do something so irrevocable and important as leaving forever without the consent of the country. 50% plus one person is not the will of the people, it is the will of half of them." then argue for something like 55%, 60%, or 66%, depending on which is easier to pass. Boom, Cameron wouldn't be hiding in the corner wondering where it all went wrong right now. The only issue is that he would have had to do the same for the Scottish Referendum too, but this is obviously hindsight anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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Re: Breeki British Brexit thread
« Reply #1258 on: June 27, 2016, 04:18:24 am »

I don't think it's significant enough to turn back the nationalistic pride

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Geez, I'm getting saltier about this by the day. LW, do you wanna change the poll to "salty" vs. "not salty"?

I fear for our future when people can identify strongly with something other than a thing they bought.
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« Reply #1259 on: June 27, 2016, 04:23:35 am »

(Although the 1% of regrexers are (less than) 0.5% of votes available to swing the vote, for every x% of 'swingers' that's x% less from their original side and x% more to their swung-to side, so 2x% swing.  Add to that those (especially oversees voters, likely to be globalists, emperically) who reported postal-vote materials or arriving on the day of the vote, it could easily tip. But regretful non-voters (either way inclined, but looking at the stats there'd be a trend in such a large pool) it's probably the force that would tip things in a re-reun. Obviously one side would prefer not to take that risk, whilst the outside world has alrwady taken home the first message, so I don't know if a "whoops, sorry, didn't actually mean that, can we just forget about that little outburst?" act will help our standing.  Wevd just look desperate and unstable. Which we always have been, but this makes it utterly public.)

Poor Gaelic. Wonder if the Welsh still dream of being a country.
I don't think I'd call the Welsh something like Gaels. That I'd ascribe purely to the C/Q-celtics (Irish, Manx, Scottish), whilst Wales (along with the Cornish and of course Brittany in France, the P-celtics) are more Brittonic ('Britons', in the original sense.)

Welsh Nationalism is generally less than the Scottish version (though no less fervent), probably because of deeper historical integration within the UK and material natural resources being far more depleted of any possible crutch to independence.
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