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Author Topic: Latin American Politics: Moralism  (Read 108091 times)

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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1065 on: December 07, 2022, 11:28:32 pm »

President Pedro Castillo just attempted to overthrow the Peruvian government by illegally dissolving Congress and imposing a national curfew, along with trying to diddle the prosecutor's office on the side to disrupt their corruption investigations against him.  This barely lasted two hours before the resignation of most of his cabinet, and declarations of protest from Congress, the constitutional court, and the military, culminating in his own arrest and replacement by the vice president.

The Guardian news story
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1066 on: December 08, 2022, 02:40:15 am »

I guess that’s one problem with democracy, essentially it being a popularity contest, and people winning it confusing winning with being popular as opposed to just being the least unpopular, combined with the Trumpian idea that if you put someone in a powerful position they are expected to follow you blindly.

I have to say I respect the audacity of the move though, other than it being unbelievably short-sighted in that the things that happened afterward were pretty obvious consequences of it.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1067 on: December 10, 2022, 03:25:51 am »

I work with some people from Peru and Castillo is kinda unloved by all now (before all that). Peru's pass time is kicking unpopular and unlawful presidents out of the chair. They have like 5 under their belts now.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1068 on: December 10, 2022, 04:15:47 am »

I saw an interview of Castillo shortly before he was elected and he came across to me as a complete moron with no idea of what he was talking about. He didn't even know the proper meaning of the words
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1069 on: December 10, 2022, 04:18:51 am »

He is. And his attempt at staying in power was enough demonstration of it.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1070 on: January 08, 2023, 03:02:50 pm »

Bolsonaro supporters are pulling a stupider J6 and are storming the Brazilian Congress.

The Brazilian Congress is not in recess today and supposedly empty.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1071 on: January 08, 2023, 04:01:55 pm »

If anything its less stupid and scarier than 6J. They have a better chance of disrupting politics due to Brazil's instability (ie: what if the goverment calls down the army to kick them out and the army  takes over?
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1072 on: January 08, 2023, 04:32:53 pm »

America, you are a mimetic hazard :P
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1073 on: January 08, 2023, 05:13:42 pm »

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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1074 on: January 12, 2023, 07:31:56 am »

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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1075 on: January 13, 2023, 11:40:57 am »

President Pedro Castillo just attempted to overthrow the Peruvian government by illegally dissolving Congress and imposing a national curfew, along with trying to diddle the prosecutor's office on the side to disrupt their corruption investigations against him.  This barely lasted two hours before the resignation of most of his cabinet, and declarations of protest from Congress, the constitutional court, and the military, culminating in his own arrest and replacement by the vice president.

The Guardian news story

Yes, he tried (and failed) to prevent his own overthrow.  The idea that law has anything to do with this is just pure DELUSION.  However he pissed basically everybody off by being a backstabber and throwing everybody overboard to save his own skin so it didn't work. 
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1076 on: January 19, 2023, 03:37:57 am »

Well would you look at that

https://theintercept.com/2023/01/18/genaro-garcia-luna-trial/

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Looks pretty bad. I'll note the Intercept has been deemed by some a questionable source (articles on a specific subject that seemed influenced$, though IIRC it may have only been one writer) a few times recently and generally is quite lefty, if such a site burns your eyeballs.  I look at it because it seems to be nearly entirely outside reuter's/ap repostings and has articles I won't see on three different sites as I trundle from news site to news site.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1077 on: January 19, 2023, 06:20:46 am »

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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1078 on: July 24, 2023, 10:13:43 pm »

In Surinam, political parties are trying to reform the election laws, because the current laws are deemed discriminatory.
One part of the plan, brought forward by the VHP party, will be strongly opposed by president Brunswijk's party.
The VHP wants that elected officials can have no criminal convictions, whether it be in Surinam, or somewhere abroad.

This would mean that president Brunswijk can no longer be elected, nor can former president Bouterse.
Both have been convicted in absentia in the Netherlands for smuggling (huge amounts of) cocaine.
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Re: Latin American Politics: Moralism
« Reply #1079 on: July 24, 2023, 10:19:44 pm »

In Surinam, political parties are trying to reform the election laws, because the current laws are deemed discriminatory.
One part of the plan, brought forward by the VHP party, will be strongly opposed by president Brunswijk's party.
The VHP wants that elected officials can have no criminal convictions, whether it be in Surinam, or somewhere abroad.

This would mean that president Brunswijk can no longer be elected, nor can former president Bouterse.
Both have been convicted in absentia in the Netherlands for smuggling (huge amounts of) cocaine.
That's pretty flawed, though. In such an absolute form, it means that, eg, Russia could disqualify candidates in Suriname at will by conducting show trials in absentia. Better to limit it to convictions which are valid in Suriname, but establish parity with trusted partner countries, which would certainly include Holland.
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