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Libash_Thunderhead

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Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« on: March 19, 2016, 11:23:49 am »

When I thought in new version they no longer feel stress, I decided to build a fort without a roof and beds.
It was a 1x1 map rains all the days.

Shortly after the first migrant wave, they were attacked by buzzards. Then I saw the message about a farmer was stricken by melancholy.

Oddly enough, his stress level was -26349 when I checked. Someone had a stress value of 36000 seemed perfectly fine.
Is it because dfhack got the wrong values, or stress works differently now?
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Skorpion

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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2016, 12:18:39 pm »

Maybe he just really, really likes the great outdoors and buzzards?
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 01:38:06 pm »

Different dorfs have different stress thresholds, so this first sufferer is probably a sensitive one.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2016, 02:01:58 pm »

You need to get temples/libraries running so your dwarves will have a way to work down their stress level.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2016, 04:48:35 pm »

Ive never seen anyone get stressed out in these new versions... and in the old versions the smallest number I saw was positive 50k.. never anything negative.  I know the vengeful-existing-conflict negative thought is very strong.  I think it can apply multiple times, not just once, if for example that bird kept flying back and forth overhead.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2016, 06:48:59 pm »

Different dorfs have different stress thresholds, so this first sufferer is probably a sensitive one.
But -26k?
Unless the value gets reset after the dwarf snaps.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 06:56:13 pm »

I guess the only answer is to drive more dwarves insane and see what Therapist records their insanity stress values at.

This could be facilitated by giving all dwarves max stress vulnerability and ramping up their needs.

For science, of course.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 07:21:03 pm »

I already abandoned the site because it was on an island.
I'll start a new one later.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 07:40:52 pm »

Youd think being outside on an island prevents insanity, not causes it.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 07:55:31 pm »

Being on an island prevent further migrant waves, which means fewer test subjects.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 08:54:40 pm »

Ive got an above ground fort with lots of outside tiles.  They get rained on and terrorized by honey badgers and giant owls.  I dont use civilian burrows and goblin invasions usually result in civilian causalities.  Yet 2/3rds of the fort is ecstatic, and 40 of them are capped at -1M stress.  Some of capped ones have stress vulnerabilities.  If stress still exists like normal... then maybe I didnt realize how harmful cave adaptation can be.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2016, 12:23:52 am »

I have had a few dwarves go beserk.
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2016, 07:16:42 am »

Couldn't it be that the dwarf got moody and snapped because he didn't have available what he needed to create his (questionable) masterpiece?
Then again...not sure if any dwarf would go moody that early.

Did you maybe play another fort in that world and had a melancholic dwarf living there who happened to have migrated to your new fort and therefore was instantly melancholic upon arrival?
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2016, 07:59:33 am »

Couldn't it be that the dwarf got moody and snapped because he didn't have available what he needed to create his (questionable) masterpiece?
Then again...not sure if any dwarf would go moody that early.

Did you maybe play another fort in that world and had a melancholic dwarf living there who happened to have migrated to your new fort and therefore was instantly melancholic upon arrival?
Yeah, I checked the log, no mood.
But you are right he could be from another fort, though I didn't recall. :o
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Re: Oh no, stress system is NOT broken
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2016, 08:49:20 am »

Finally, my new fort now has a stressed thresher(10k) and a stressed baby(13k).

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Now 11k and 15k and still increasing.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 08:56:36 am by Libash_Thunderhead »
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