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[mirrizin]

Am I the only one who finds this program extremely handy for doing basic schematics?

[steel jackal]

i myself use game makers room editor

i can load a tileset into it and then i can build my fort in there, then replicate it in DF

[ChuckWeiss]

I use GIMP myself. Mostly because I know the bottles better than paint, buy it also supports alpha transparency and layers, so I can see how schematics line up across z levels.

[sirdanilot]

I think using Excel, which comes naturally with a grid, is more handy than paint. The idea of DF is that everything is made of text characters, anyway. There's also an easy way to turn all of excel's cells into a square.

[steel jackal]

I use GIMP myself. Mostly because I know the bottles better than paint, buy it also supports alpha transparency and layers, so I can see how schematics line up across z levels.

pixlr editor is a lot like gimp but its free, has pretty much everything gimp does
only downside is that its an online app, other than that its really good and i use it for when im drawing pictures
for sprites and pixel art i like game makers sprite editor

for a program called game maker it sure can be useful for things other than making games

[gralcio]

pixlr editor is a lot like gimp but its free

the only downside of your advice is that GIMP is free

[steel jackal]

pixlr editor is a lot like gimp but its free

the only downside of your advice is that GIMP is free

ah, the typo made me think it had to be bought to get all the features

[wierd]

GIMP is terrible for doing fine point pixel art. You need pixel precision for that. GIMP fuzzes everything!

(See the avatar? I made that in MSPaint.)

[Sutremaine]

You can do more complex schematics with colour coding. Kind of a pain to coordinate things across levels unless they're really obvious or you put each level into a box.

[RocheLimit]

I find it very useful myself, though I do not use it for schematics. 

I use:

• Paint for images
• Irfanview for copy/crop/pasting things into paint
• GifCam for capturing animated gifs
• Gimp for adding animated gifs to still images/animated gif edits
• Open Office Calc/Excel for spreadsheets/graphs/schematics
• Open Office Writer/Word for journals

[Parsely]

GIMP is terrible for doing fine point pixel art. You need pixel precision for that. GIMP fuzzes everything!

(See the avatar? I made that in MSPaint.)

Aseprite is my favorite pixel art tool. So many useful features. It's great for animating too. I tried GIMP a couple times and always came back to Aseprite.

[mirrizin]

What got me started using paint was finding a way to make circles pixel by pixel with a predetermined diameter. It's pretty good for that, especially since you can see the measurements.

Doing more complicated stuff, yeah. I imagine there should be a more user-friendly program.

[Chief10]

I generally just use the "marker-only" designations within DF to come up with schematics. It helps me match them to the landscape I will be building/digging in. What advantages do you find to using 3rd party program to design? (other than interface)

(See the avatar? I made that in MSPaint.)

Damn that's impressive...

[Saiko Kila]

I don't use that or any other program for my schematics. I have a visual imagination, and can see the fortress three dimensionally in my head. I would maybe consider using a program (not MS Paint though) to plan a more complicated pixel-painting. But since I don't do complicated pixel-paintings in DF…

[Blue_Dwarf]

There's Paint.net, which is like Paint but with more Photoshop features.

Cropping an image in Paint is pain(t)ful...