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Author Topic: King of the Mafia 5: Hail to the King  (Read 36981 times)

hector13

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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2016, 10:12:15 am »

NQT

Hector what's actually wrong with the way NQT's been asking questions from your point of view?

They're super vague, quite sneaky, and (certainly with the reactive/proactive role one) have massive scope for anyone in the game to manufacture evidence from. I'll bold an addendum to this in my response to NQT (assuming I remember: PFP)

I'll address NQT later, would rather be at a computer where I can find and format things a lot quicker.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2016, 12:33:34 pm »

OSG, do you think that hosing random players of their powers would have been more likely to help or hinder your faction?
My thinking was that if anybody had a blatantly overpowered ability, such like one that prevents people from finding out who they were. I could nerf their power without removing them. Then people could invesigate them, etc. \

Now, if shakerag has yellow goo, then nobody will ever be able to target him for investigaions. Therefore, if he is King Mafia, we will have no way of knowing at all. So I think it is a good idea to lynch Shakerag since we have no leads as of now, and shakerag will be impossible to find out. So if he is king mafia, we would have to blind lynch him at some point, why not now?
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2016, 01:31:39 pm »

That logic is ludicrous. There's obviously going to be more information to work with at later stages of the game even if there are no inspection roles in the town at all. And I'd be a lot happier with lynching the guy who was fine with removing town power roles (including the investigative ones you claim to want to help since you had no way of knowing Shakerag didn't have one last night).
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2016, 02:00:24 pm »

NQT

Hector what's actually wrong with the way NQT's been asking questions from your point of view?

They're super vague, quite sneaky, and (certainly with the reactive/proactive role one) have massive scope for anyone in the game to manufacture evidence from. I'll bold an addendum to this in my response to NQT (assuming I remember: PFP)

I'll address NQT later, would rather be at a computer where I can find and format things a lot quicker.

Er... that was directed at DA, rather than NQT. The quoted part makes that super obvious, but hey, you guys might be blind :P

+1 on DA telling OSG off; looks like he's taking a more direct route at getting rid of the more experienced players. Do you honestly think everybody's day game is so bad that we can't figure out anyone's alignment through questions and analysis?
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2016, 03:18:38 pm »

NQT

It's a pussyfoot rolefish, really.
Yes, I'm trying to figure out what sort of roles players might have. This will help me make decisions. We know that the King has an active role (the mafiakill) so this is all helpful stuff. What's the problem with that?

Bold bit as previously mentioned addendum for DA:

We also know that killing is not the only active role in the game. There's inspecting, blocking, watching, tracking, jailing, guarding, redirecting, randomising etc. etc. etc. so it's... not all that helpful if someone implies they have an active ability.

It's like 4mask going through the possible roles list for the game. There's a great deal of them it could turn out to be, and you're going to find it hard to narrow it down based on the information we have in the game thus far, so it's of negligible utility.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it if you want to, I just don't think people will take much stock in it if you do.

Did you gain any insight of the four people who answered your questions?
Yes, I'm getting town vibes from Wolf and Persus a little bit more than I was. Do you have any feelings about any of the other players yet?

I'm also leaning toward 4mask being town, though the thing about going through all the roles doesn't sit well with me, despite his explanation.

OSG is being silly. Whether that's scumminess or laziness is another thing. Let's see what he does next.

I'm loving the not-quite-an-OMGUS-FoS, though.
OK, I've changed it to a full vote. Are you even happier now? Attacking someone for questioning doesn't seem like a pro-town move.

I'm not attacking you for asking questions, I'm attacking you for the kind of questions you ask. You seem to be trying to lead people into saying certain things that you can then respond by saying "aha! I've got you now scumbucket!"

You're also totes confusing love with happiness :P



Toaster (or anyone): Do we still have to vote for someone/thing every 24 hours during the weekend, even though weekends don't count for time?
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2016, 07:05:57 pm »

hector13 why am I town?

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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2016, 07:12:41 pm »

Town lean.

Town: You've been pointing things out that aren't necessarily to the scum's benefit, like the obfuscation and mindfuckery thing when I shared my thoughts regarding cops.

Lean: When you said you had left the "I'll be back later" thing as a means to see how people reacted, you pointed out what you were doing after about an hour (initial post was 7:27, you said what you were doing at 8:41) on a Friday night. I don't think that's enough time, but that's just, like, my opinion, man.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2016, 10:16:50 pm »

Lean: When you said you had left the "I'll be back later" thing as a means to see how people reacted, you pointed out what you were doing after about an hour (initial post was 7:27, you said what you were doing at 8:41) on a Friday night. I don't think that's enough time, but that's just, like, my opinion, man.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Night 0. (7/7) (Queue: 5)
« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2016, 11:08:36 pm »

Vote Count:

4maskwolf:
Notquitethere: hector13
Deus Asmoth:
origamiscienceguy: Shakerag, Deus Asmoth
Persus13:
Shakerag: origamiscienceguy
hector13: Notquitethere, 4maskwolf

No Lynch:

Not voting: Persus13

Day 1 will last until Monday 2/29 at 11 PM EST.  4 to hammer.

Technically, Deus and OSG should be prodded, but I'll let you off with a warning since it's the first check- the only warning for all of KOTM 5.  Vote and be active!


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As far as the game is concerned, Friday 11 PM to Monday 11 PM is 24 hours long.  As long as there's a vote anywhere in that time window, you're good.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2016, 11:14:39 pm »

Why should I get a prod? I voted shakerag 10 hours ago.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2016, 11:22:50 pm »

Did you vote during your extended absence after moping about losing your role?
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2016, 11:46:12 pm »

Ah. Thanks, that must be it.

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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2016, 06:53:47 am »

We also know that killing is not the only active role in the game. There's inspecting, blocking, watching, tracking, jailing, guarding, redirecting, randomising etc. etc. etc. so it's... not all that helpful if someone implies they have an active ability.
It's helpful to know if we're going to be able to confirm that they acted in a night. Like, a tracker can claim later who they were tracking and that could clear them from doing the kill. Obviously I'm not saying all active role folk are scum.

I'm not attacking you for asking questions, I'm attacking you for the kind of questions you ask. You seem to be trying to lead people into saying certain things that you can then respond by saying "aha! I've got you now scumbucket!
See, you might have a case if I had said "aha!", but voting me on the pretext that I might "aha!" isn't any kind of case. I might as well vote you on the pretext that by voting for me (a town) shows you can't be trusted to live until LYLO where you might also vote for a town. Make a case for things folk have done, not things they might do.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2016, 06:54:04 am »

OSG
Now, if shakerag has yellow goo, then nobody will ever be able to target him for investigaions. Therefore, if he is King Mafia, we will have no way of knowing at all. So I think it is a good idea to lynch Shakerag since we have no leads as of now, and shakerag will be impossible to find out. So if he is king mafia, we would have to blind lynch him at some point, why not now?
No. If anything, Shakerag is the person we should be letting live for now as he has has the only confirmable role: if he uses his power on someone and there's still a mafia kill then he's in the clear.
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Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2016, 09:42:43 am »

Okay, Unvote, but what will we do if he is king mafia?
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