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[syvarris]

I'm against parachuting, or at least only parachuting.  There are enemies on the roof, and we'll be extremely vulnerable to their fire while coming down, and for a little bit after landing.  Also, it won't prevent the point defense from taking out people.

I'd be okay with paradropping if the plan is modified to drop me (and anyone else who can snipe) off on a nearby skyscraper, and after infantry has been cleared from the roof, the rest of the squad can paradrop in and disable the PD.  Then, a helicopter can transport the overwatch team over.  This should minimize casualties.

[Egan_BW]

I'm against parachuting, or at least only parachuting.  There are enemies on the roof, and we'll be extremely vulnerable to their fire while coming down, and for a little bit after landing.  Also, it won't prevent the point defense from taking out people.

I'd be okay with paradropping if the plan is modified to drop me (and anyone else who can snipe) off on a nearby skyscraper, and after infantry has been cleared from the roof, the rest of the squad can paradrop in and disable the PD.  Then, a helicopter can transport the overwatch team over.  This should minimize casualties.

That sounds sensible, provided there's a good spot with view of the roof.

[Zormod]

Edited sheet.

[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: irc convo, that supports by original plan! (click to show/hide)

[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> We have been discussing how to approch the building in ERRANT
[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> does the UFO have point-defence?
[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> would it be able to shoot down a helicopter?
[19:26] <+Devastator> I'd doubt it, actually.
[19:26] <+Devastator> what use would an aircraft have for that kind of weapon?
[19:28] <Enraptured_Rabbit> it has a "Bow plasma pulse autocannon turret" and hardpoints, but I'm unsure if the main cannon would have the field of fire to shoot down our chopper
[19:28] <Enraptured_Rabbit> those hardpoints might hold point defence or antipersonall weapons, but it's not stated
[19:31] <Aigre> being landed, no
[19:31] <Aigre> the aliens didn'tbring heavy weps
[19:31] <Aigre> but... they will probably use civvies as body shields if you try and land on top of them
[19:31] <Enraptured_Rabbit> who cares
[19:32] <Aigre> ^_^
[19:32] <Enraptured_Rabbit> we do have multiple battle rifle users
[19:33] <Aigre> the alien prisoner selection method is to pick out the most beautiful females of breeding age...
[19:33] <Enraptured_Rabbit> sigh

In this case, I support my original plan, with snipers supporting from the chopper.

[AzyWng]

Spoiler: irc convo, that supports by original plan! (click to show/hide)

[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> We have been discussing how to approch the building in ERRANT
[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> does the UFO have point-defence?
[19:20] <Enraptured_Rabbit> would it be able to shoot down a helicopter?
[19:26] <+Devastator> I'd doubt it, actually.
[19:26] <+Devastator> what use would an aircraft have for that kind of weapon?
[19:28] <Enraptured_Rabbit> it has a "Bow plasma pulse autocannon turret" and hardpoints, but I'm unsure if the main cannon would have the field of fire to shoot down our chopper
[19:28] <Enraptured_Rabbit> those hardpoints might hold point defence or antipersonall weapons, but it's not stated
[19:31] <Aigre> being landed, no
[19:31] <Aigre> the aliens didn'tbring heavy weps
[19:31] <Aigre> but... they will probably use civvies as body shields if you try and land on top of them
[19:31] <Enraptured_Rabbit> who cares
[19:32] <Aigre> ^_^
[19:32] <Enraptured_Rabbit> we do have multiple battle rifle users
[19:33] <Aigre> the alien prisoner selection method is to pick out the most beautiful females of breeding age...
[19:33] <Enraptured_Rabbit> sigh

In this case, I support my original plan, with snipers supporting from the chopper.

Wouldn't it be kind of difficult to shoot a rifle accurately from a chopper?

I myself have no experience with firearms or helicopters outside of video games and other works of fiction, but I know that a chopper will be at least somewhat shaky, and that rifles need steady hands to shoot accurately.

Aside from that, I'm good for the plan. Not that I had any others in mind.

[syvarris]

Difficult, not impossible.  According to the book I have on sniping, it's sometimes done by police forces when engaging in manhunts in the wilderness, where it would be completely impractical to have people comb the woods on foot.  Also when there's shooters who already have the highest perch.  Lastly, according to the book, it's a fairly frequent military practice to have snipers in helicopters provide overwatch for fastroping infantry, though machine guns are more common in that role.

This guy was shot by a SWAT sniper in a helicopter.

Spoiler: Images (click to show/hide)

Anyway, yeah, I like Egan's original plan better now.  Doubly so when I consider that being in a helicopter means I won't get attacked by that raptor.

Edit: Zormod, you're currently slightly overbudget.  7.62 bullets cost 500$ per lot, not 350$.  Removing the fiberoptic cam would cover the discrepancy, or you could just not buy any FMJ ammo; I've got plenty to share.

[Egan_BW]

Yeah, it's a win/win. We get covering fire, you get to not be shot at (until the ayys get out their secret blaster bomb stash.)

[Aigre Excalibur]

I'll process Syvarris, then we'll get started.

In 2016, there are suppressors for everything. Yes 40mm grenades come in smoke and flash as well. Assume similar costs as the hand-thrown version.

[syvarris]

Oh, I forgot to mention this, but Nik responded to my PM.  I'm not sure if he'll join, but he did express interest in the game.

[AzyWng]

All right then, sounds good!

[Aigre Excalibur]

Mission 1 Plan
Abductions in progress in a generic shopping mall designed something like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Tactical Floor Plan:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's basically a kill-house dressed like a shopping mall.

Alien troops are platoon strength consisting of 4 Grey Alien Commandos each leading teams of up to 8 Betas each. They also have a velociraptor. Aliens have secured entrances to the mall and are in the process of rounding up civilians (a few hundred of them) for abduction.

ERRANT has been called in to take control of the situation, rescue any civilians and neutralizing any hostiles. 

Cheat Sheet for Alien Deployment:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1st squad on ground floor security.
2nd Squad rounding up civilians, scattered.
3rd squad on overwatch on the Foruth floor.
4th Squad providing security for the ship and prisoners.
Velociraptor in reserve somewhere on the third floor.

Alien Scout MK1 layout:

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Mission 1 is ready to go. Decide on your organization, check your gear, and vote on how you want to be inserted.

To clarify on the map: the service access opens to the rear of all the stores.

[Egan_BW]

We ride in on a chopper, most of the team drops to the roof by rope while our sniper and gunner cover us. We secure the UFO,  and then move on to the rest of the building. If the chopper can't get a good angle on the interior of the building, those people then also drop to the roof and help clear.

I vote for this.

[Twinwolf]

We ride in on a chopper, most of the team drops to the roof by rope while our sniper and gunner cover us. We secure the UFO,  and then move on to the rest of the building. If the chopper can't get a good angle on the interior of the building, those people then also drop to the roof and help clear.

I vote for this.

[MidnightJaguar]

We ride in on a chopper, most of the team drops to the roof by rope while our sniper and gunner cover us. We secure the UFO,  and then move on to the rest of the building. If the chopper can't get a good angle on the interior of the building, those people then also drop to the roof and help clear.

I vote for this.

[AzyWng]

We ride in on a chopper, most of the team drops to the roof by rope while our sniper and gunner cover us. We secure the UFO,  and then move on to the rest of the building. If the chopper can't get a good angle on the interior of the building, those people then also drop to the roof and help clear.

I vote for this.