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sprinkled chariot

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Loosing some weight
« on: February 05, 2016, 01:20:35 pm »

Hello bayers.
I have  decided to drop the weight from 78 kg to 73 kg, but there are some problems
- usual solution aka jogging is not an option, because ICE, and I might not be able to afford sport club.
- Decreasing ammount of calories/ sweet stuff in my diet leads to improvement for ahort period, but then willpower suddenly switches off, I start overeating and my lost kg say hello. This leads to sense of guilt and even more overeating, and I am back on the starting point :(

Any ideas or advices would be appreciated( except skiing, fuck skiing)
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2016, 05:52:43 pm »

Well, my roommate lost a bunch of weight by doing two things.

1)  Not buying/drinking sodas.
2)  Replacing his most boring meal of the day (the lunch he prepares for work) with a big-ass salad.

Not sure if that helps, but if you aren't already doing #1, that should probably do that at least.
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 07:21:22 pm »

1)  Not buying/drinking sodas.
Are diet sodas okay? I mean, they still have sodium and the acid's bad for your teeth, but they don't have any calories.
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 07:41:33 pm »

1)  Not buying/drinking sodas.
Are diet sodas okay? I mean, they still have sodium and the acid's bad for your teeth, but they don't have any calories.

just stay away from all of it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 08:11:21 pm »

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Masssive negative incentive. As I've learned from economics, incentives work!
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2016, 12:29:28 am »

- usual solution aka jogging is not an option, because ICE,
You radiate of wisdom. Seriously. Despite having slipped on ice a few of occasions, I still run on iced sidewalks. BUT when I do use common sense, here's what I do:
-Jog slower.
-Find some grass or non-slippery surfaces to run on. This might not be an option if there's too much snow or the place is too wet.
-If you have roads clear of heavy traffic (and ice) in your area, run on them.
-Compact snow on the ground usually covers ice, but there's still risk of course.
-Exercise indoors. It's cramped, but every little bit counts.

I'm not too familiar with dieting or gym memberships so I can't really help you out there. Then again my winter exercise advice is kind of sparse as I usually throw caution away and run in all kinds of crazy weather. Nevertheless, good luck loosing weight.
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2016, 06:50:17 pm »

1)  Not buying/drinking sodas.
Are diet sodas okay? I mean, they still have sodium and the acid's bad for your teeth, but they don't have any calories.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25231862/

In short, no, they can cause "glucose intolerance," by altering the gut microbiome. In the study they reversed it by basically nuking the gut flora with antibiotics. (glucose intolerance leads to type two diabetes, iirc)

Personally I just stopped drinking soda cold turkey (15 years ago!). It's not like it's heroin or alcohol or anything.

Btw, margarine is also worse for you than butter. Go figure.
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2016, 08:49:56 pm »

Any ideas or advices would be appreciated

Sometimes working out more is easier than eating less. i recommend you find an athletic hobby. Going to the gym boring and eats up a lot of time time going there and back, changing, showering , etc. Whereas if you decide to really love playing DDR, or swimming, or playing ice hockey or whatever, it's much easier to bring yourself to do it.

The ideal situation is that you "need 5 hours of workout per week" but you actually do 10 without ever even counting, because the athletic thing you do is a lot of fun and you'd do it anyway even if you didn't care about your weight.

Plus, that way you can eat all the chocolate cake and ice cream and soda you want without worrying about it.

That said, depending on your circumstances it might also help to make sure that you're eating enough of important things, like protein.

Are diet sodas okay?

No. There are some studies that show that diet soda can contribute to weight gain. Some are theorizing that it has something to do with intestinal bacteria processing the stuff that your body can't digest. Others are suggesting that it's purely psychological, and if you "feel good" about drinking "yay diet" soda, you tend to not feel as obligated to work out as much. There seems to not be a strong consensus. But either way, they're also generally bad for you in other ways. Heart risk, diabetes, causes headaches, etc. if you can, drink water. If you can't, it might be better to drink regular sugar soda over diet and simply deal with the extra calories.

Again, easier to work out more than to always feel hungry and like you're suffering and not enjoying the things you like.

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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 01:34:54 am »

Take it from me--someone who basically drank soda 24/7 all his life--once your off soda (all soda), you'll FEEL sooo much better. It's night and day.
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Re: Loosing some weight
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 01:55:08 am »

Exercise, as far as free bodyweight exercise that you can do literally everywhere, there are so many sites devoted to this sort of thing:

http://www.nerdfitness.com/resources/

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2015/08/05/the-prisoner-workout/

two of my favourites

Also, as far as being able to resist cravings, this may sound completely unrelated, but have you seen Star Wars the Force Awakens?  Cause there's something that the main villain does that has really helped take my mind off eating stuff like chocolate and ice cream
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 04:27:42 am »

those are nice links. i have been looking for free bodyweight exercises for a while, and they seem to have a good list.
Although I need them for the exact opposite reason ( need to gain weight)

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 07:31:51 am »

I'm shedding a few kilos at the moment myself, since I put on weight while studying at college.

Don't "diet" since everyone rebounds from that. You need to adjust your eating behavior long-term. If you don't enjoy your food, it won't stick.

First, you need to make a good inventory of what you consume when, work out the macros (protein, carbs, fat) involved, and work out when you tend to "slip" and do something silly and expensive such as takeout (plan a meal or "good" snacks for these times).

Basically, having a good meal plan is 90% of the way to fixing up your diet. Make sure you're eating at set times, set amounts, and have things in between to keep you going. A small meal every three hours is more effective and easier to stick to, than eating three meals a day and starving for 4 hours between meals.

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 08:15:22 am »

Shovel snow for the elderly. It burns more calories than jogging, and you get to feel good about yourself.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 05:49:26 pm »

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/exercise/art-20050999?pg=1

10 hours in a week doing something that burns ~1000 calories per hour burns ~10,000/7=~1400 calories per day. One pound of fat is 3500 calories. So that sounds fairly fast... But if you're eating ALL THE CAKE AND ICE CREAM you may add more calories than you're burning.  :P

P.S. Only the really strenuous stuff was around 1k calories per hour. Most of the activities they listed were much less.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 08:27:56 pm »

Your maths is correct, except your idea about how much calories you can burn with any reasonable exercise routine is way off.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/540717-how-many-calories-does-one-hour-of-aerobic-cardio-burn/

For example, jumping jacks will burn < 300 calories per hour, so you'd be looking at around 5 hours a day of constant jumping jacks to burn 1400 calories per day, and that's definitely going to be bad for strain on muscles and joints. But you could mix that up with other aerobics that are of equal intensity as jumping jacks, as long as you keep bouncing around for a total of 5 hours a day ...

Mountain biking is more reasonable, it's listed at around 600 calories per hour and will definitely be easier on your body that the aerobics, but still that would be around 2.5 hours per day of continuous full-speed pedaling to hit 1400 calories.

Actually, reality check: around 1 hour a day of vigorous exercise is definitely not going to burn a pound of fat every three days. If it was that easy then people would just be able to adjust their weight in no time flat.
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