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[TomiTapio]

Is this a consequence of the mod, a bug, or what?

Hmm.. haven't tested myself, too much DPS loss on opening up the circus :-=)
"demon of pain" and "demon of lust" are the only surface demon castes.
Sometimes the random demons are made of fragile materials. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Demon#Clean-up

[PiggiesGoMoo]

I got a Yeti poet, probably because I embarked near the nords.  The yeti hasn't recited any poetry, but he has destroyed a kiln and a limestone door lol.  It's not hostile though. Pretty hilarious

[TomiTapio]

Yess, got Proper Stress after six groblins invaded and died all over our Bard Zone(TM). 70 citizens, 16 of which have 10k to 90k stress.

invented new TODO items
to-do leather bed. Ooh such luxury, a tiger fur bed!
to-do plump fairy, in normal grass and forest.
to-do cremate teeth.
to-do cloth item into THREAD

[TomiTapio]

Today's settlement, no water anywhere, not in caves, not on surface woods. So we use the screw press to make "hospital water" (tomato/potato etc juice).
Giant moles killed 4 of us, early on. Now some spear-nosed bats are raiding our beer barrels.

[Thundercraft]

Kudos to TomiTapio for updating and maintaining the Old Genesis. That takes time and effort.

Though, I really do wish that the OP had a link to Deon's classic Genesis Mod topic for 0.31.x (and updated for 0.40.x). Not all of us have that topic bookmarked. And the forum's search function seems rather hit or miss in terms of results.

BTW: Is it safe to assume that the Genesis Mod Wiki is hopelessly outdated at this point? Are there any plans to start an "OldGenesis Wiki" that would be more current?

Further, I think it would be nice to have a more complete changelog in (or near) the OP. It seems changelog notes are scattered around with the posts announcing each release, which makes them hard to find. That, and there is a "2012 changelog" file in the downloads themselves. However, that changelog only covers May 14, 2012 through Oct. 1, 2012. The rest of the changelog notes seem hidden in the middle of the "OldGenesis notes.txt" file, making it seem scattered or a bit disorganized.

Thankfully, I found a lot of useful documentation and notes in the "OldGenesis documentation.txt" file, including a bunch of stuff that is missing in the OP. But I have to wonder: Why isn't all this mentioned in the OP (at least in {spoiler} tags)?

[TomiTapio]

Thanks, I added link to the 2010-2015 mega thread and to all of master Deon's uploads.
Yeah the 2012 or 2013 version's wiki is totally out of date.
Changelog I think I'll keep in the notes text file, which is also my project management file full of todo-items.
Thanks for the suggestions, they were helpful!

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My screenshots of OldGen in the twitter hashtag: https://twitter.com/hashtag/oldgenesis?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

Version .12c any week now, with much tweaks like:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

2018-08-xx: OldGenesis version 44.12c
- apparently, foreigner visitors like to use the swimming pool and theatre and rockball sports court!
- olive tree promoted to fairwood.
- terebinth tree added, the original mediterranean turpentine-tree.
- unarmed combat (punch/kick) velocities reduced. Punch made prepare-2, recover-3, a little quicker.
- snakemen to use centaur ethics, to get war. They had groblin ethics.
- aquifers removed for N releases.
- new craftshop reactions for jade etc. : carve precious earring, carve precious ring, carve precious amulet
  carve amulet/ring/earring from semiprecious (jade, agate, onyx, jasper, serpentine[stone], carnelian, sard, alabaster[stone], jet[stone], chalcedony,
    amber[doesn't exist in OldGen], heliotrope[doesn't exist in OldGen] ) ok not from the stone ones, already craftshop can use them, being stone.
  [REACTION_CLASS:SEMIPREC_CARVING]
- beech tree's nuts added.
- new toy, ITEM_TOY_DICE_AND_TRACK_BOARD (throw dice, advance on board)
- reaction enabled: "forge coarse iron bed" (cast iron, brittle). Entity typo FORCE_COARSE_IRON_BED typo had prevented it.

Dwarves:
- all dwarf castes, boost agility. Boost gait speeds from 30kph to 35kph.
- leatherworking skill gain reduced, now that lots of barkstrips available.
- mining xp reduced.
- steel caste occurrence ratio down.
- gloomer caste given same physical as stone caste.
- jade scholar caste, endurance and recuperation down.
- shield caste, learns leatherwork as teens. shield clan dwarves have initial dodging, fighting, swimming skill.
- shroom caste, learns spider silk crafts as teens.
- moss caste lasses learn digging 101 as teens. moss lads smelting.
- stone caste kept as no-natural-skills.
- fewer shroom and moss caste.
- boosted martial training wanting, entity's [VALUE:MARTIAL_PROWESS:35] from 15 to 35, maybe this will make them train more often without orders.
- steel clan now loves axes, not halberds/pikes.

   Caste summary:
   STEEL: toughness, soldier, leadership, charisma, engraving(male), masonry(female)
   SHIELD: soldier, leatherwork, stonecrafting
   OBSIDIAN: pyrokinesis, smithing and furnace, pottery & glazing & glasscraft, cooking, intimidate with fire
   JADE: scholar, bookkeeper, mechanic, light crossbow, teaching, diagnosing, bone setting, appraisal, herbs, alchemy
   STONE: no specialty
   MOSS: recovering, poison resistance, nursing, smelt(male), mining(female)
   ASPID: poison bite, dagger, lies, flattery, sneaking, dance, tracking, concentration
   GLOOMER/DEEP: grimness defect, dagger, butchering, vermin dissecting, alchemy, bonecarving, engraving, lying, reading
   SHROOM: happiness defect, fast breeding, poor eyesight. farming, weaving, clothier
   DOMPLE: learning defect, milking, animal caretaking

Creatures:
- air mephit nerfed a little.
- giant moles are more common now.
- beastmen speed almost tripled.
- illithid empire breeds faster (5y instead of 16y)
- demon civ breeds faster
- duskelf, orc, kobold breed slower.
- mussel (clam) shell crafts and armors removed. You can't make a helmet from a clam.
- a sasquatch was insanely cheap to purchase, increase price from zero to 2500.
- moose are more common and more plentiful.
- snow gorillas added.
- gorillas and snow gorillas from quadruped to humanoid. (adding of PUNCH revealed silliness.)
- demons increased from 200 kg to 300 kg. Demons back on no_eat to have larger population.
- mongoose & impala demoted from leather to suede.
- Living Rock creature nerfed, gave way too much training.
- minotaurs boosted.
- BALOR boosted, it just wrestled horses weakly and died to bard pile.

domestic animal prices revamp:
14 cavy, rat
35 rabbit
40 duck, guineahea
50 chicken, goose, polecat, peahen
70 cat, spaniel
80 turkey, cave beetle
90 cave tortoise, forest cat
200 goat
350 alpaca, beak dog
470 bulldog, pig
500 dog, sheep
580 mastiff, donkey
600 llama
640 small horse, mule
680 muskox, camel, pekyt(sheeplike, gives hide)
800 cow, buffalo, yak, zebra
850 large horse
900 water buffalo

I'm considering adding a needy, useless noble/blueblood caste
that refuses to learn most of the skills, and has a needy greedy lazy personality. What job would they favor, perhaps gem cutter and architect?
(existing domple caste has a learning disability and a happy, hard-working personality, arrive as animal caretakers)

[TomiTapio]

Feeling brave, as previous 2x2 fort defeated three Centaur assaults. This fort is deeper into hostile territory, same world.

[TomiTapio]

=== Metallic update!  44.12c OldGenesis Ironhand is here ===
Ironhand version is out now: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14058
ASCII : http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14062
Phoebus in a few days.

Changelog:
2018-10-07: OldGenesis version 44.12c
- apparently, foreigner visitors like to use the swimming pool and theatre and rockball sports court!
- olive tree promoted to fairwood.
- terebinth tree added, the original mediterranean turpentine-tree.
- unarmed combat (punch/kick) velocities reduced. Punch made prepare-2, recover-3, a little quicker.
- snakemen to use centaur ethics, to get war. They had groblin ethics.
- aquifers removed for N releases.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

- new craftshop reactions for jade etc. : carve precious earring, carve precious ring, carve precious amulet
  carve amulet/ring/earring from semiprecious (jade, agate, onyx, jasper, serpentine[stone], carnelian, sard, alabaster[stone], jet[stone], chalcedony,
    amber[doesn't exist in OldGen], heliotrope[doesn't exist in OldGen] ) ok not from the stone ones, already craftshop can use them, being stone.
  [REACTION_CLASS:SEMIPREC_CARVING]
- beech tree's nuts added.
- new toy, ITEM_TOY_DICE_AND_TRACK_BOARD (throw dice, advance on board)
- reaction enabled: "forge coarse iron bed" (cast iron, brittle). Entity typo FORCE_COARSE_IRON_BED typo had prevented it.
- Ezrakim(dunedweller) word for brass, fixed.

Dwarves:
- all dwarf castes, boost agility. Boost gait speeds from 30kph to 35kph.
- leatherworking skill gain reduced, now that lots of barkstrips available.
- mining xp reduced.
- steel caste occurrence ratio down.
- gloomer caste given same physical as stone caste.
- jade scholar caste, endurance and recuperation down.
- shield caste, learns leatherwork as teens. shield clan dwarves have initial dodging, fighting, swimming skill.
- shroom caste, learns spider silk crafts as teens.
- moss caste lasses learn digging 101 as teens. moss lads smelting.
- stone caste kept as no-natural-skills.
- fewer shroom and moss caste.
- boosted martial training wanting, entity's [VALUE:MARTIAL_PROWESS:35] from 15 to 35, maybe this will make them train more often without orders.
- steel clan now loves axes, not halberds/pikes.

   Caste summary:
   STEEL: toughness, soldier, leadership, charisma, engraving(male), masonry(female)
   SHIELD: soldier, leatherwork, stonecrafting
   OBSIDIAN: pyrokinesis, smithing and furnace, pottery & glazing & glasscraft, cooking, intimidate with fire
   JADE: scholar, bookkeeper, mechanic, light crossbow, teaching, diagnosing, bone setting, appraisal, herbs, alchemy
   STONE: no specialty
   MOSS: recovering, poison resistance, nursing, smelt(male), mining(female)
   ASPID: poison bite, dagger, lies, flattery, sneaking, dance, tracking, concentration
   GLOOMER/DEEP: grimness defect, dagger, butchering, vermin dissecting, alchemy, bonecarving, engraving, lying, reading
   SHROOM: happiness defect, fast breeding, poor eyesight. farming, weaving, clothier
   DOMPLE: learning defect, milking, animal caretaking

Creatures:
- air mephit nerfed a little.
- giant moles are more common now.
- beastmen speed almost tripled.
- illithid empire breeds faster (5y instead of 16y)
- demon civ breeds faster
- duskelf, orc, kobold breed slower.
- mussel (clam) shell crafts and armors removed. You can't make a helmet from a clam.
- a sasquatch was insanely cheap to purchase, increase price from zero to 2500.
- moose are more common and more plentiful.
- snow gorillas added.
- gorillas and snow gorillas from quadruped to humanoid. (adding of PUNCH revealed silliness.)
- demons increased from 200 kg to 300 kg. Demons back on no_eat to have larger population.
- mongoose & impala demoted from leather to suede.
- Living Rock creature nerfed, gave way too much training.
- minotaurs boosted.
- BALOR boosted, it just wrestled horses weakly and died to bard pile.
- raptors boosted a tiny bit and made more common.
- red fox to produce fur, not suede.
- deep crow boosted.

domestic animal prices revamp:
14 cavy, rat
35 rabbit
40 duck, guineahea
50 chicken, goose, polecat, peahen
70 cat, spaniel
80 turkey, cave beetle
90 cave tortoise, forest cat
200 goat
350 alpaca, beak dog
470 bulldog, pig
500 dog, sheep
580 mastiff, donkey
600 llama
640 small horse, mule
680 muskox, camel, pekyt(sheeplike, gives hide)
800 cow, buffalo, yak, zebra
850 large horse
900 water buffalo

[TomiTapio]

=== Incredisquare update!  44.12c OldGenesis ASCII is here ===
ASCII : http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14062

[TomiTapio]

=== Phoebus caverns glimmer!  44.12c OldGenesis is here ===
Phoebus version: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14065

[TomiTapio]

patch file that adds to all three tileset versions:

- blueblood / posh dwarf caste. Lazy as heck, will not learn sweaty peasant professions,
likes gems, horse training, cat kicking, glassblowing, poetry, flattery, appraisal, architecture, brewing, cheesing.
"You dirty-arsed vomit-covered tanglebeards! I better distil the sherry myself, you can't be trusted with the finer things in life."

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14080

hmm I better make them walk much slower, so they aren't used as haulers. Please disable the posherinos' hauling, they are meant to glassblow and write beardpoems.

[joaodosgrao]

Is there a way I can use this mod in tandem with Peridexis starter pack?

I would like to at least have DFhack, Soundsense, Dwarf Therapist and Quickfort.
How do I do this?

[TomiTapio]

Is there a way I can use this mod in tandem with Peridexis starter pack?
I would like to at least have DFhack, Soundsense, Dwarf Therapist and Quickfort.
How do I do this?

(for Ironhand tiles version, ascii version is easier to copy over to that starter pack)

You'll need data/art/ironhand.png, data/init configs that command the game to use ironhand.png and turn graphics on, and the subfolders of the "raw" folder (which contain animal and person graphics, and all the moddable data).
I use Dwarf Therapist myself, and Soundsense should be easy to set up, it just reads the gamelog.txt every 1 second.

Short version: delete starter pack's "raw", put OldGenesis "raw" folder there, copy tileset png to data/art, edit init to use the tileset png.

[joaodosgrao]

Is there a way I can use this mod in tandem with Peridexis starter pack?
I would like to at least have DFhack, Soundsense, Dwarf Therapist and Quickfort.
How do I do this?

(for Ironhand tiles version, ascii version is easier to copy over to that starter pack)

You'll need data/art/ironhand.png, data/init configs that command the game to use ironhand.png and turn graphics on, and the subfolders of the "raw" folder (which contain animal and person graphics, and all the moddable data).
I use Dwarf Therapist myself, and Soundsense should be easy to set up, it just reads the gamelog.txt every 1 second.

Short version: delete starter pack's "raw", put OldGenesis "raw" folder there, copy tileset png to data/art, edit init to use the tileset png.

I get the same fatal error when I do you short version.
Isn't there any possibility of uploading a mod that already works with LNP?

[TomiTapio]

Heh, a minor OldGenesis bug/feature: "bonfire-bound codex". On fire forever. Material from Warlord255's Bonfire mod.
Burns the wagon it arrives in. A truly magical tome!