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[LordBucket]

Well I'd imagine the party would feel invigorated or refreshed or happier maybe giving them statboosts or extra actions or some such like a dancer from fire emblem for example.

Rejected. You're asking for your "I just happen to sing" singing to be more directly and immediately effective than the magic of actual wizards, who would have to spend an evening chanting or similar to generate that kind of effect.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

I could make it so they cost the same amount of time.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

I think it'd be fine as long as it was just a morale boost. No stat boosts, no extra actions, just plain morale. But... that's probably not a thing except for the case of NPC's. But you'd have to be pretty well acquaintanced for singing to be reassuring.

Also it could make easy money from inns or stuff.

That is kinda what i was thinking it could also calm some animals?

[IronyOwl]

Wow. I know the fight was longer than it was dangerous, but still.

As you might have surmised, I'd like to get on the waitlist and am not terribly convinced I'll be waiting all that long.

Unless I missed it, I still need an alternate skill from you that isn't enchanting.

Indeed. I was waffling between some combination of divination, blacksmithing, and carpentry, but I believe recent events have cemented my desire to hide behind sturdy constructions at any cost.

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IronyOwl

Skills Divination(Major), Carpentry/Construction(Minor) [Whatever covers walls and the like; being able to also make nice tables would be nice and presumably I'm not going to be working with much stone, but if houses AND tables are too much I'll take the houses]

Divination is the art of knowing the unknowable by seeing its shapes in other things. The entrails of a diseased rat might mimic the state of a kingdom, the patterns of clouds at dawn might share the fate of a hero, and the way runed bones fall might be similar to the way betting on that horse will go. As with all magic and all translations, the validity of these interpretations are debatable, sometimes fiercely.

Background:
A sorceror from the Cult of Rackt, a magically inclined cabal seeking knowledge in all its forms. IronyOwl has come to battle the necromancer because the sheer, ludicrous magnitude of his magical power demands study. He's less concerned with the necromancer's downfall than with examining his works, but is no less determined for it. His main talents lie in the seeing of things beyond mortal men, but he has some skill at carpentry and construction as well. Officially this is a sign of his devotion to learning all of the world's secrets, not just the high and eldritch; less officially, he assisted in building houses in his youth, as scribery and study did not pay especially well.

Being a sorceror, he's somewhat eccentric, and tends to hold himself and other seekers of knowledge above common rabble. He's also realistic about his ability and desire to perform manual labor or hand to hand combat, however, and so tends to get along with said rabble reasonably well.

Description
A tall, swarthy man with a thin build, short black hair, and a pointed, carefully trimmed beard and mustache. His eyes are dark green. He wears dark blue knee-length robes over black cloth pants and black leather boots. He sports a noticeably ornamented belt, necklace, and rings.


Equipment:
 * Clothing
 * Leather Boots
 * Sturdy Bronze-Shod Staff
 * Oversized Bronze Bead Necklace
 * Copper Ring, Feather-Etched Silver Ring, Thick Brass Garnet Ring, Red Jade Ring, Ivory Pink Pearl Ring

 * Ornate Leather Belt
    * Sheath: Ornate Curved Dagger
    * Cloth Pouch: Runed Fortune Bones

 * Leather Pack
    * Charcoal and Parchment
    * Chalk and Small Slate
    * Magnifying Glass
    * Hatchet
    * Hand Saw
    * Mallet
    * Hammer
    * appropriate Drill
    * Hand Plane
    * Wood Chisel
    * Cloth Pouch: Small stones of assorted colors and shapes
    * Goatskin (3 days of water)
    * Food(Dehydrated fruit, nuts, beef jerky)(3 days)

[IronyOwl]

Also:

I could make it so they cost the same amount of time.

I think it'd be fine as long as it was just a morale boost. No stat boosts, no extra actions, just plain morale. But... that's probably not a thing except for the case of NPC's. But you'd have to be pretty well acquaintanced for singing to be reassuring.

Also it could make easy money from inns or stuff.

That is kinda what i was thinking it could also calm some animals?

This seems like a lot of effort just to be able to say you're really good at singing. Wouldn't it be easier to just pick a weapon or crafting skill, and then fluff it that she really likes singing and is rather good at it?

[crazyabe]

I just got a big question that could be important in the end, it is:
Which is harder, casting magic or disspelling magic?
I mean this in the way of "Is it harder to make a fireball, or harder to unmake that same fireball?"
you probably know where this is going...

[LordBucket]

I just got a big question that could be important in the end, it is:
Which is harder, casting magic or disspelling magic?
I mean this in the way of "Is it harder to make a fireball, or harder to unmake that same fireball?"
you probably know where this is going...

Let me answer that with an analogy: Adam and Bob are both pushing a rock. Adam is pushing to the right. Bob is pushing to the left.

 A--> O <-- B

Which is harder, pushing to the left or pushing to the right?

[crazyabe]

Depends on who's stronger...

I would have thought tearing magic back down would be easier...

[Andres]

I would've thought it'd be harder. It's easier to learn how to build something by reading the instructions than by reverse-engineering, after all.

[IronyOwl]

I'm guessing the idea is that magic is less a complex construction and more an exotic form of strength. You're not sabotaging or dismantling a dam, you're bailing water out of a lake somebody else bailed it into.

[LordBucket]

Depends on who's stronger...

Not necessarily. Net output over time is not exclusively dependent on power.

For example, if I'm strong enough to push the rock against ground friction at a rate of 10 meters per second, and do that for one second, I have pushed the rock 10 meters. If you're only strong enough to push the rock at a rate of 1 meter per second, you're one tenth as strong as I am. But if you push the rock for 10 seconds, you can undo my effort.

A low level wizard can undo the work of great one. It might take even a great wizard substantial effort to undo the work of a weak wizard...if that weak wizard has invested sufficient time into the working.

You're not sabotaging or dismantling a dam, you're bailing water out of a lake somebody else bailed it into.

Sure, that metaphor works. If you have a bucket and use it to bail water into the lake 100 times, even if I have a bucket 50 times as big as yours...I still can't "undo" your work with a single bail.

[LordBucket]

Ironyowl joins the party

Note some minor changes to your gear. Also, i don't recommend attempting to do any woodwork while still wearing all those rings.

[IronyOwl]

Noted, and good point.

[LordBucket]

Next update is half written and should be up tonight. I think a few people still haven't submitted turns. If you haven't submitted an action and want to, I recommend getting it into within the next 10 hours or so.

[LordBucket]

"I'll go dismember the wolf. Best we do that now before it reanimates. I could use some company. Oh and no fires. We don't want to alert the zombies down there. Crazyabe, if you can, see if you can do something about Romans. Won't be good if we all get sick."

Go down to the wolf carcass and dismember/behead it. Declaw one of the paws and take it with me. Take second watch.

The wolf event happened along the road on your way to Laketown. You left it on the road several hours away.