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It's not really a case nor a point if you don't actually provide your role.
... but only pedantic to a point. Why are you role fishing?
... One. I'm not role fishing. If I were, I would have asked a different question. My question is simple: is there a role in the previous round that your own role parallels in some way? Now, as scum, how am I supposed to use that? I wouldn't say that's usable. Unless you have any ideas for how scum could use that?
[1]
The question I would prefer you asked would be "Now, as town, how am I supposed to use that to catch scum?" so please do answer that one.
[2] However, to answer your version of the question, it allows the scum to narrow down the potential roles that are in this game, which is infinitely more useful than the entire spectrum of roles in Mafia.
Two. I'm not role fishing. Not all asking questions about other players' roles is role fishing.
[3]
So asking people about their roles isn't role-fishing? Please do explain that.Three. I'll provide my role if you provide your role. Deal? In any case, I shouldn't need to provide my whole role to say that there's a role in the previous round my own role parallels.
[4]
I wasn't asking you to do that, and I don't see how that's going to help town since you've said you haven't taken an action yet, while I've said I've taken two, at least one of which is unreliable.
[5]
While I appreciate that makes me less of a target of the scum - assuming, of course, I'm telling the truth 
- [6] it doesn't hurt town very much if my results do actually turn out to be unreliable as a result of an auto, rather than a scum action.[7]
I hope you also appreciate the irony of you arguing you're not role-fishing and asking someone to reveal their role in the same post.Obviously someone hasn't been reading. [1] I got a bit of a shock upon discovering that my action may not be reliable shortly before I posted.
[2] Perhaps you should explain your OMGUS, though?
[1]: Unless your action's result was why you voted me on day one, that shouldn't have changed anything.
[8]
It wasn't. Why is it scummy that I haven't voted you yet, when I was discussing something unrelated, and potentially important for the round?[2]: Not all votes for the person who is voting you are OMGUSes. An OMGUS is a "knee jerk" reaction by a player who has just been voted, in which they vote the voter in question, saying that the person voting them must be scum because of said vote. I, however, though I voted you for your vote on me, it wasn't the vote that got me against you, but rather why it was placed, and what it seemed to imply. You voted me for asking a question... about a small aspect of the other players' roles. It seemed like a bit of an overreaction, plus it seemed like you were trying to hop onto any bit of potential scumminess you could find in order to speed a lynch through without giving the other players much thought.
[9]
So you accept you're voting me for voting you D1 and not voting you D2? I refer you to my previous question.[10]
And do explain the speeding through a lynch part, and why me voting you to figure out what you were trying to do is a bad thing. We know we can't lynch someone with one vote. [11] I wanted pressure on you because I saw something suspicious, and the best way to put pressure on someone is to vote them. Those suspicions weren't alleviated by day end, so I had no reason to remove my vote. [12] I was the only person voting, and thus the only person who's vote could be scrutinised the next day. How does that fit into me being scum?
[13] Why weren't you voting D1, if my vote was so suspicious to you? Seems to me you didn't want to be accused of an OMGUS at the time - the "knee jerk" you refer to - so waited until D2 to alleviate that. [14] This may go some way toward also explaining why you posted a response to me almost 19 hours after D1 ended. You know I'm not going to respond to something once the day is over, so it just looks like you needed to get the last word in to setup your D2.
[15] I come on to start Day 2 and find that my action results were inaccurate. I don't know if this is because I have a secret auto like TBF last round or if this round's schtick is the scum being able to do something to them, so I announced that to the rest of town so it could be discussed. It was in the middle of that when you popped up and then dropped a vote on me, demanding why I wasn't voting for you apparently - a question that could easily be answered had you not been completely ignoring the discussion up to that point.
[16] You accuse me of wanting to speed through a lynch? I accuse you of wanting to keep information out the game by moving discussion from potential scum actions to whether or not you're OMGUS'ing.
Well then. Let's get started. I'll just purple all the text that's yours in that spoiler...
This might take a while...
[1]: S'pose I know every role in this round parallels a role in the previous round(again I ask you, does your role parallel a role in the previous round?)... now I can see which claim doesn't fit the paralleling as much. Plus, if two people claim their role parallels one role, then we can assume one of them is lying...
[2]: Sacrifices must be made. Besides, it's not going to help them that much if they don't know what the actual roles are, or even which roles are being paralleled... all I asked was "does your role parallel a role in the previous round". Five roles in the previous round, each player's role parallels one of them. One: The scum wouldn't know which roles are being paralleled by which players. And two, the scum still wouldn't know what roles the players even have.
[3]: Asking people questions about their roles can be role fishing... but it depends on the circumstances. This is not a simple game. This is a semi-bastard game. Each round is a puzzle, which must be solved with... role information!
[4]: My role parallels the Ouija Master role in the previous round. I have an auto... and a 1-shot that passes that auto on temporarily(or permanently if I die). Unlike the Ouija Master, my auto is beneficial(unless it's fake), so I'd like to keep it, for the moment at least.
[5]: Uh, why?
[6]: Uh... why?
[7]: See answer [3].
[8]: Since your vote on me was not determined by your night action, my scumminess shouldn't have changed over the night, thus you should have voted me immediately at the start of the day.
[9]: Not for voting me day one, but for your reasons for voting me day one.
[10]: You were not voting me to figure out what I was trying to do. You already knew what I was trying to do, I stated such multiple times. You were voting me to get me lynched.
[11]: The pressure bit makes sense. But I would argue that my little role questions shouldn't have been enough for a lynch vote. See answer [3].
[12]: To put it simply... Voting good. Voting for bad reasons bad.
[13]: Yes, I didn't vote you at the time because I didn't want to be accused by you of OMGUSing you. That was a mistake on my part.
[14]: Actually, I wasn't aware the day was over. Another mistake on my part.
[15]: See answer [8].
[16]: Multiple things can be discussed at the same time.
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