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[Starver]

Hopefully sorting out the quotes...

The poke happened each time (no obvious reason to believe anything blocking-related to initiating a non-TDS block, but has to be considered), noticably blocked only upon N0, upon the Blocking Source, never at any other time

What 'non-TDS block'?

It seems, from my knowledge alone, that there's a possibility that there's a blocking (or blocker-blocking?) action that matches nothing so far described.

Moonlit is a strange one, has definitely lied, and said as how he was bocked in http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=155932.msg7061563#msg7061563 yet not ever in http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=155932.msg7067056#msg7067056 and it's just too strange and confusing.  And not the only one.  But role-discovery seems legit, with but marginal scum-use behind it.  Thoughts from others?

If my role has scum use, why don't you say that to Hector, who also discover's his target's action, not their role?

Utility. Hector, by all accounts including your own, is limited to a lucky counter-target.

One possibility is that your skill is investigative insofar as discovering what skill it is disallowing. N0 you get TDS's skill from him, as he blocks Fish, N1 you get Hector's skill as he Sentinals waiting for me, N2, you get my skill, stopping me from scanning you. But you report it differently.

Right now, I really want to get detail on Fish, to confirm a match with my own alignment check that you readily agreed with, but I don't think that's going to happen this side of a fuller reveal.

I wasn't blocked, but lied about that so I could question Hector (Or else he would've easily evaded my questions).

Silly move. Which isn't to say that I haven't done similar.

But, right now, it's the desperation in your arguments that is making me happier to have voted you.

[hector13]

I do believe the day ended not quite 7 hours ago.

[hector13]

I do believe the day ended not quite 7 hours ago.

[Tomasque]

 Sorry. I haven't been able to get to a computer for a while, but now I can. Expect an update soon.

[Tomasque]

Round Over - Town Win!

Votecount
Hector13 (0)
TheDarkStar (1) - The Moonlit Shadow
TheBiggerFish (0)
Starver (0)
The Moonlit Shadow () - Starver, hector13, TheBiggerFish, TheDarkStar

 Not Voting:

The Moonlit Shadow was the Doppelgänger

Spoiler: Doppelgänger (click to show/hide)

Doppelgänger
The great council selected you as the one for this mission, and you're not going to fail them. Once the humans are eliminated, your race will finally have the planet it deserves.
Archetype: Evil role
Wincon: You win if everyone but you is dead                                                 (1 point)
                        if everyone but you is dead and your target was lynched Day 1 (2 points)

(a) Remember the Plan: You cannot be roleblocked.
(n) Phase 1: You gain the abilities of your target for tonight and tomorrow.
(a) Phase 2: Whoever visits you is automatically targeted by your newly acquired abilities.
(a) Phase 3: If the person who's abilities you share is lynched, you (1) retain their abilities permanently, (2) show up as their alignment, (3) can no longer use Phase 1, Phase 2, or Phase 3, and (4) gain the ability "Final Phase".
Not yet acquired:
(n) Final Phase: Your target is eliminated.

hector13 gets one victory point.
FallacyofUrist gets one victory point.
Starver gets one victory point.
TheBiggerFish gets one victory point.

Spoiler: Player Roles (click to show/hide)

Doppelgänger
The great council selected you as the one for this mission, and you're not going to fail them. Once the humans are eliminated, your race will finally have the planet it deserves.
Archetype: Evil role
Wincon: You win if everyone but you is dead                                                 (1 point)
                        if everyone but you is dead and your target was lynched Day 1 (2 points)

(a) Remember the Plan: You cannot be roleblocked.
(n) Phase 1: You gain the abilities of your target for tonight and tomorrow.
(a) Phase 2: Whoever visits you is automatically targeted by your newly acquired abilities.
(a) Phase 3: If the person who's abilities you share is lynched, you (1) retain their abilities permanently, (2) show up as their alignment, (3) can no longer use Phase 1, Phase 2, or Phase 3, and (4) gain the ability "Final Phase".
Not yet acquired:
(n) Final Phase: Your target is eliminated.

Private Eye
Something's not right in this town, and you're determined to find out what it is.
Archetype: Investigative role
Wincon: You win if the Evil role is eliminated.

(n) Inspect: You learn the alignment of your target.

Sentry
You tend to keep an eye on everybody - if they try anything funny, you'll see it coming.
Archetype: Investigative role
Wincon: You win if the Evil role is eliminated.

(n) Sentinel: If your target visits you, their action is revealed to you. This action does not visit.

Signaller
You like to poke people... I'm tired, okay?
Archetype: Special Town role
Wincon: You win if the Evil role is eliminated.

(n) Tap: Your target is alerted that they have been poked.

Socialite
 You like to chat with the people who you invite over - or even those who you don't!
Archetype: Town Weakness role
Wincon: You win if the Evil role is eliminated.

 (n) Small Talk: Your target is roleblocked.
 (a) Surprise Visit: If anyone visits you during the night, you target everyone who visited with Small Talk instead of your intended target (if any).

Spoiler: Action Log (click to show/hide)

Night 1
The Moonlit Shadow phase 1'd Starver  (gained Inspect)
Starver inspected TheBiggerFish
hector13 sentineled The Moonlit Shadow  (failed)
TheBiggerFish tapped TheDarkStar  (autoroleblocked)
TheDarkStar small talked hector13  (failed)

 Night 2
The Moonlit Shadow phase 1'd hector13  (gained Sentinel)
Starver inspected TheDarkStar  (autoroleblocked)
hector13 sentineled Starver  (failed)
TheBiggerFish tapped hector13
TheDarkStar didn't act

 Night 3
The Moonlit Shadow phase 1'd TheDarkStar  (gained Small Talk and Surprise Visit)
The Moonlit Shadow phase 2'd Starver
Starver inspected The Moonlit Shadow  (autoroleblocked)
hector13 sentineled Starver  (failed)
TheBiggerFish tapped Starver
TheDarkStar small talked hector13  (failed)

[hector13]

gg lads and lasses.

[TheBiggerFish]

Wow, that was just...Wow.

[hector13]

So... what was with the poke, Tomasque?

[Starver]

Well, I was right about multiple blockers... 

(Also three investigative roles, in actuality, although only two were 'official'.)

I think you could have been subtler, Moonlit, and not so jumpy-around, but you disguised your role well despite this. It was niggles, only, that nearly (then actually) had me voting for you. Subtly different interactions would definitely have kept me believing you as allied.


@Hector: just a poke, it seems.

[Tomasque]

I'd also like to give a big thank you to TDS for substituting for FoU this round. If I ever have an open spot again, he'll be the first one I ask.

[Starver]

Me and thee were Hectorised, D1, IIRC.   I held back because the marathon model seems to like scumkill-by-mislynch often enough for me to not so much rush to roleflip possible townies.

That means I'm left with three suspects, one now less suspicious than before, another more suspicious than before and the mysterious third who I suspect to be Neutral (but isn't the person I long thought to be neutral, nor necessarily certainly so even now) but I need an attempt at explanation from TDS to swing me one or the other or (possibly) the other. And I can wait.

(And I keep getting Ninjaed. 4, then 4, now 3.)

Oh.

I see now.

I wonder how I didn't see this before.

...Ok... am I thinking this through too deeply?

I trusted you, Starver. And... you're a smart guy.

Very smart.

(This message didn't help, it made me receptive to your flip-flopping, although it's obvious in hindsight that you're at that pount setting me up for a fall.)

[TheBiggerFish]

What WAS with the poke?

[TheBiggerFish]

Also, what clued me in to Moonlit:He kept going after TDS on a technicality that didn't even make sense.

[Tomasque]

So... what was with the poke, Tomasque?

What WAS with the poke?

I have to thank Jack AT for that idea: He had a similiar "marking" ability that he gave me in one of his games.

However, there is some utility to this ability, and there are 3 reasons why I had in in the game:
 
 1. It can be used as a possible "proof" that you are an innocent role. A hard sell, but beneficial if pulled off.
 2. It causes chaos if acquired by the Doppelgänger. When suddenly half the players are poked in one night, they'll be a lot of discussion about it in the morning.
 3. It can lead to the reveal of the Doppelgänger. If people realize that all the players who's pokes were unaccounted for visited the same person, it could lead to chain reaction that will end with a lynching - or at least a spirited discussion.

[Starver]

Yup, TDS, you did well with an inexplicable role.  You were top of my list of potential bad-guys several times, but sufficiently descummec yourself before I acted on it.  Now if you had been Scum, it'd have been even more to your credit...