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[Starver]

@Starver

Were you told someone visited you or something?

No, not that.  That I (yet) know of, anyway.  It's a role-related thing that I oughtn't go into.  I've been bitten by this kind of thing before, though.  Never mind.

[FallacyofUrist]

Well, at least we can vote.
Also, unvote Starver. I don't currently have anything on him, and that vote was just to test if we could vote.
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I've been bitten by this kind of thing before, though.  Never mind.

I suspect this will mean something to someone.

[hector13]

'kay, so, I'm a bit busy but am somewhat bemused by the no scumhunting thing we've got going on.

21 hours left in the day (I think) and we've done literally nothing. Not even a pressure vote remains. You guys... you guys.

[FallacyofUrist]

In which case, Extend if at all possible.

[FallacyofUrist]

I point out the fact that my votes are pressure votes all the time. It hasn't hurt me yet.
For instance, The Moonlit Shadow, here's a pressure vote for you. Because I'm thinking that you voted hector in a subtle attempt to prevent your own lynch, because of a tie that would result at the end of the day as a result of your vote(if the day ended).

[FallacyofUrist]

I point out that you said it was "Because I want to know if we can vote this round."

That was for my vote on Starver, not on you.

[FallacyofUrist]

My vote on Starver- I placed that one because I wanted to know if we could vote this round.
I kinda like being able to vote, after all...
My vote on you- I placed that one for pressure reasons.

[hector13]

Yeah, extend.

Hector why point out about pressure votes? Kinda takes away a lot of pressure.

*sigh*

Why drop your vote when it's the only thing you have to encourage other folk to talk?

When I said nothing had been done, I didn't mean extend and continue doing nothing...

[hector13]

Okay I have a bit more time than I expected:

Ah. You sound like you want to oppose the extend.

I actually want other folk to scumhunt from time to time. We've had two days and literally FUCK ALL HAS HAPPENED. Excuse me for being frustrated that apparently nobody wants to play as town.

An extension is only really useful if it's, you know, used to scumhunt. EXTEND + silence is stupid. Like what you guys are doing. Why should we extend if we're just going to piss about?

FoU claimed his day game was pants in the KotM game. Doesn't seem to be willing to work on it though, which this set of games is ideally suited for. Oh well.


Moonlit: voting the only other person who was voting at the time, and coincidentally, voting you. OMGUS much? Also latching onto something a player said they do all the time, which they didn't do one time... what?

What is FoU's meta voting habit going to tell you about his alignment in this particular game?


FoU: pressure voting kinda works best if you don't tell folk it's a pressure vote. It goes from "oh, I wonder if this person is serious with their vote, better do something!" to "pfft, vote will move soon, don't have to worry about it at all" which isn't so helpful, is it?

How come you stopped posting when we found out we can vote? Are you going to pressure Moonlit beyond just dropping a vote on him? What do you think about Moonlit just now?


Starver: the only one of our brethren not to be very active, outside of TBF. What gives?

Alternatively (actually, simultaneously) why aren't you off to a good start?

[hector13]

So Starver doesn't enter into your thoughts? Cool. Tell me why.

What were the reasons you voted me, initially? Just because you're not voting me anymore, doesn't mean we can't get something useful out of you telling us.

I'm not voting you just now, no. However, I need to be convinced not to move my vote back to you, since you seem to have eliminated Starver from being scum for a reason I can't presently fathom.


This will likely be it for the rest of the evening; back to RL^tm.

[FallacyofUrist]

Bah, I say. I usually(basically, in my last few games) announce it when I place a pressure vote.
And in order to build pressure... all I have to do is leave the vote on. It's simple as that.

What do you think about Moonlit just now?

I think he's trying to shake my vote.

[hector13]

So you're just going to leave your vote there and not do anything? No wonder your day game sucks

Also Moonlit, I refer you to the previous game in which FoU claimed a town weakness role that wasn't part of the scum win con, a much more egregious act than telling you he's putting pressure on you. It's not a scum tell. /bedtime annoyance

[Starver]

Starver: the only one of our brethren not to be very active, outside of TBF. What gives?

Alternatively (actually, simultaneously) why aren't you off to a good start?

The former is mundane, in that whenever I've checked the thread late at night I've not seen anything worth (still) commenting on, then going to bed a bit earlier than usual before anything else gets said.  (Not been absent, just not as synchronised with you lot as I have before.)

And ignore the latter, it was a comment I probably should not have made.  I'm just hoping the wrong person doesn't pick up the right meaning to it.  Instead I'll work as normal, and try not to be so introverted.



My thoughts: Ignoring Fish (can't rule out their being scum, but there's nothing useful in considering that, right now), I'm looking towards one/both of Moonlit/Fallacy being 'at least Neutral', on balance, but that's based upon very little information, and doubtless will tend you two towards switching your voting ire (back, in one case) towards me.  Hector's been a lot more restrained, in that regard, this time round, which makes me more (although barely so) inclined to believe as Town.

I'm not sure where we're going, yet, though.  Nobody has claimed (or demonstrated) any absolute knowledge, which means the Investigator(s?) just knows who isn't Scum (and, presumably, has never voted for them... except for maybe Fallacy's first 'test', possibly) or is the momentarily unconsidered Fish.

(To trust that the Mod should specifically bake the roles to allow a player's temporary absence would be a meta-gaming assumption.  I don't think Fish has been given a 'dump-role', for this game, and that something else may have been adjusted in its stead to make the absence seem workable without any great advantage or disadvantage granted by it.  But that's also a meta assumption.  My own foreknown absence from the last game just happened to happen when I had no night actions - and, it turned out, I was already dead by that point anyway! )

I've not got a vote in the pile, right now, though perhaps I ought to do, if only to break the stalemate.  Too much uncertainty even between my 'marginal guesses', unfortunately.  Willing to be persuaded otherwise, or anti-persuaded, if you make yourself look more roguelike...

[hector13]

Days been over for ages, bro. No talking.

[hector13]

2.

Also no rules on extension. AFAIC, day's over. Wasted any extension anyway by not doing anything.