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[TheBiggerFish]

Well, let's hear it anyway?

[TheBiggerFish]

Wait, what do you mean, "not even to save you"?

[Starver]

Well, let's hear it anyway?

One investigation, but the other "visit" was both a blind and a nod to the actual target.

Wait, what do you mean, "not even to save you"?

Silly phrasing. I'm happy to sacrifice myself for a Town win, but I forgot that Fallacy was claiming Neutral, not sure where that leaves the balance. I do tend to like helping Neutrals when I'm Town (and vice-versa, of course), but that's probably not sensible.

Also worried if it's a traditional Lovers-type pairing (one dies, other dies) and if that's true then (even if they don't know it) it's possible that we also kill the Beloved. Who could be anyone but Moonlit, if true.

[hector13]

Perhaps it needs to be triggered before the lover thing happens. Or it could be unrequited (poor FoU!)

There is also a chance the lover is the Evil role, which would win the game for us if they do die too.

[TheBiggerFish]

I don't think Tomasque would be that much of a bastard.

[hector13]

We have 10 minutes to be convinced otherwise.

I guess this game compared to the last one is an example that timing your claim can be the difference between winning and losing.

[Tomasque]

Round 10 - Night 1
  It seemed a few had caught on to the existence of some unknown menace. A swift arrest is made, but in the subsequent hours it becomes clear that the suspect was not the real threat, but was instead a lowly crook. His arrest barred him from re-entering the community, but it did no good in stopping the evil still among the townsfolk.

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FallacyofUrist (3) - TheBiggerFish, The Moonlit Shadow, hector13
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 Not Voting: FallacyofUrist, Starver

 FallacyofUrist was the Salesman

Spoiler: Salesman (click to show/hide)

Salesman
It's a nice life - going door-to-door duping people into buying things they don't need with money they don't have.
Archetype: Neutral role
Wincon: You win if no one but you wins.

(n) Bankrupt: Your target receives a message that someone wants to "<whatever you choose>" If they accept, your player name is revealed to them and they will be unable to win the game while you are still alive. They do not know this.

[Tomasque]

Round 10 - Day 2
 The day came around again, and in the little paradise of the Suburbs District 6, few noticed the loss of the salesman, and even fewer knew the very real danger they were in. The time was coming. Soon, it would be unstoppable.

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Day ends Wednesday, 9:30 AM PST
              Wednesday, 4:30 PM GMT

[hector13]

So... I think I may have this game figured out, though I have to make a few assumptions regarding certain things.

Starver is likely the Evil role. Everyone else I think - with varying degrees of confidence - is town.

If FoU wasn't pulling our chain regarding a cult-esque entity, which I'm still sure would be lead by Starver, I think Moonlit would have been targeted, given the claims made by TBF and myself.

[Starver]

Well, that was an interesting role, that Fallacy had there.

And I can tell you that the "enlightened society" person is still active, to whatever purpose...  Given the soft-confirmation of Moonlit, I reckon that means either claimed-blocker or claimed-refuser is the bad guy... Any thoughts on this?

Oh ninjaed by Hector
 Are you worried that my Good Listener role isn't susceptible,  then? Hector seems to have put his foot in it.!

[Starver]

Just to add, I'd be interested to hear if anybody does communicate by posted leaflet... Because Hector's claim of being both deaf and blind to all advances, effectively, just doesn't square with the purely word-of-mouth mechanisms that I've so far seen given.  It's an obvious fakeclaim overkill.

[hector13]

Well, that was an interesting role, that Fallacy had there.

And I can tell you that the "enlightened society" person is still active, to whatever purpose...  Given the soft-confirmation of Moonlit, I reckon that means either claimed-blocker or claimed-refuser is the bad guy... Any thoughts on this?

Oh ninjaed by Hector
 Are you worried that my Good Listener role isn't susceptible,  then? Hector seems to have put his foot in it.!

No, certain things occurred during the night that leads me to believe that Moonlit is benign, my role leads me to believe that TBF (and his meta...) is telling it true, which leaves you.

What does your good listening role do?

PPE: I did fakeclaim, yes, but for good reason. Moonlit will hopefully be able to confirm.

[Starver]

No, certain things occurred during the night that leads me to believe that Moonlit is benign, my role leads me to believe that TBF (and his meta...) is telling it true, which leaves you.

Lucky you. Until you spouted up, I still wasn't sure.

What does your good listening role do?

Unlike Fish's auto-refuser, I nod and smile at doorsteppers, but don't take them seriously.  Hence why I wanted to hint I was actually "auto accept" to trap anyone, once Fish made himself clear.

I was worried about Autos,  but I haven't heard about changes to my Wincon, so I feel happy enough.

[hector13]

Oh? What changes to your wincon were you expecting?

Were you visited last night?

[Starver]

Oh? What changes to your wincon were you expecting?

Were you visited last night?

My "listen but ignore" suggests I'm not susceptible, but a secret auto of mine or an overpowering auto of my enemy's could have scuppered that protection. Tomasque hasn't said "Your wincon now is that you're with the Evil side", so I'm fairly confident the doorstepper didn't have an effect.  If you know different, tell me. If I now have an Evil wincon, I need to side with the person proven to be Evil, right?