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[Reelya]

I don't think you're right on costs though. It is cheaper. Things like fur effects may have been expensive once, but then they become standard tools after a while and processing gets ever cheaper. The first film to have photo-realistic fur effects may have been a different matter, but after that they've already invested in the technology, so the developers want to get it used as much as possible, to spread the costs, improve the tech with experience and keep ahead of the next guy.

All these kinda effects work are usually outsourced to specialists companies. So no, Disney isn't doing this because they can take the whip to CG animators, because the CG animators don't work there, and Disney doesn't want to know the technical details. They pay someone else so that they don't have to know. The guys doing these effects (MPC) work for Sony, Warner Bros, Disney, HBO, all of them.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/565575/Film-industry-replacing-real-animals-CGI-effects

DOGS are increasingly being replaced by computer-generated film effects.

It's cheaper and less time-consuming than repeatedly trying to make a trained animal follow frustrated directors' instructions, says film studies expert Dr Michael Lawrence.

Mr Lawrence, writing in the journal Screen, said: "Supplementing real dogs with digital animation produces performances that are much more effective dramatically.

"They are also more appealing because they are more expressive to suit story needs and they are less time-consuming and therefore less expensive because they are no longer determined by the unpredictable or intractable volition of real animals, however well-trained.

"The problems that arise even when working with 'professional' dog actors can be exasperating."

https://instinctforfilm.com/feed/cgi-vs-real-animals-film/

The new Jungle Book movie is fantastic; did you notice that the animals in the film were all CGI?  Of course you did, they were talking the whole time.  The benefits of using CGI animals are fairly obvious.  It can be safer, cheaper, and easier to produce. 

[wierd]

It still boils down to compliance.  Especially the bit there about "talking animals."


In historic cinematography, the roles of animal actors were kept in line with what real animals were capable of, and presented a more realistic film experience.  However, movie script writers want to distance themselves from pedestrian reality as much as possible, which is the *REAL* source of the frustration in working with animal actors; you are trying to get animals to do unnatural, and scary things for them.  Naturally, they DO NOT want to comply.

Which is -- you guessed it-- A problem with COMPLIANCE.   The costs involved with animal actors is intimately tied with the consequences of detaching from reality.  Writers want animals to do un-real things with animals, and animals are not willing or capable of doing those things, even with good trainers.  Before the advent of CGI, this took almost abusive degrees of regimented training to get animals to comply, which was expensive and often got animal rights advocates involved. These days, they can get around all of that with a purely synthetic experience-- CG.

Really, Disney would be willing to pay *ANY PRICE* for that added degree of control.  It is not really about cost.  It's about compliance.  It always has been.

[Kagus]

Could there potentially also be an element of Disney trying to milk the image of "New Disney" being more faithful to their source material, and as such make the first movie adaptation of the book that features the actual breed of dog the original was described as being?

I mean, rather than this being exclusively some kinky domination fetish conspiracy on the part of Mr. Mouse.

[wierd]

Those two are the same thing, from what I understand.

See also, why the movie makers for Kujo had to sub-out a completely different breed with hair-colored fur, because the ACTUAL breed (st Bernard) is so inherently docile that it couldn't be amped up enough, even with abusive training, to satisfy the director.


The breed of the original dog will have introduced that dread specter of reality into the film writing, which the writers just cannot tolerate.

[Iduno]

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It's that time again!  Time to have my IQ lowered by the slow, and monotonous pacing of the Relias Learning online training! (MANDATORY!)

Today's topic: Chemical Labeling and Safety!


Did I mention that you **MUST** listen to the ENTIRE presentation, cannot skip ahead, have to engage in "learning exercises" that are designed for 5 year olds, and that the overall experience is horrible?


I get to do this every 6 months! YAY!!  Often, the subject matter is redundant and already familiar! BONUS!

Nah. You only have to *play* the entire presentation. I usually go to the bathroom or something while it's playing on mute. You should still be able to pass the quiz, even when the answers are wrong, based on how the question is asked.

I miss the old days when they didn't have quizzes/anything to prevent you from skipping ahead. My best move was watching all of the videos in a set at the same time.

[wierd]

Oh, they have gotten wise to that shit.  They have broken it up like a freaking powerpoint presentation, and you have to manually advance each slide with a click on the next button.  If I could just let the damn thing play on mute, I would totally do that.

You can't.

[Kagus]

Is the "Next" button always in the same place? Could maybe set up an autoclicker or something.

[wierd]

They also sprinkle in "Learning exercises", where you have to "Click on each [bullshit bullet point] to learn more." before the next button stops being greyed out.

They REALLY REALLY want you to sit there, and suffer, the entire time.

[ChairmanPoo]

I worry that my plans to go abroad again will go south

[scriver]

Africa's not all that bad

[hector13]

I think he’s already there, t’be fair.

Unless you meant the not-Arab parts.

[ChairmanPoo]

Well I actually quit that post, I'm going back  to fetch my things and I'll be done with Africa for the time being at least.

I'm hoping that I can go *north* again. I have decent chances... I have three hospital groups interested. But words are wind. I also had two different groups interested back in July and everything crashed down at the last minute (hence my African exile...which actually seemed like a good idea at the time, but what I was told on the phone about the job turned put to be not too related altogether to what I found).
I could activate the hiring lists and get a job at home reasonably quickly, but the idea is to go back abroad because I'm finding I was significatively happier. (There's also a nonzero chance of resuming my affair with my special female friend over there, but the first step is getting a job anyway)

Bleh. This year has been awful all around. The job fiasco abroad, the job fiasco down south, and a wagonload of personal problems. I can't wait for 2019 to be over and I need to believe 2020 will be different

[hector13]

Of course it will. It’ll be a different set of personal problems and new issues at a different place of work you have to deal with. /keep it real

[itisnotlogical]

I'm tired of smokers in my life whining about the inconveniences of their habit. You wanted to look cool or fit in or whatever you thought smoking would get you. Nobody else wants to breathe in your money wasting, so either quit or nut up and stand 10 feet from the entrance like a considerate adult.

[Iduno]

I'm tired of smokers in my life whining about the inconveniences of their habit. You wanted to look cool or fit in or whatever you thought smoking would get you. Nobody else wants to breathe in your money wasting, so either quit or nut up and stand 10 feet from the entrance like a considerate adult.

Plus, they have vape pens that create a small enough cloud/smell that you can get away with using it indoors if you're careful. Or so I've heard.

But in general, people want to make selfish decisions, and push the results off on others, because they're dicks and/or authoritarians.