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Linux is my daily driver for any laptop- I'd have to shuffle some data around to get a dual-boot running for my desktop, but it'd definitely be worth it. I haven't used it in ages, though, since I've had no good reason to use a laptop and mine hard freezes when the screen is moved and has a failing battery and overheats like it's nobody's business, i regret buying it refurbished. except when I need to pull data off an SD card.

Might go take it to camp at a library with these oppressively hot days, though.

[Dunamisdeos]

I do gaming, so I have windows.

I can't see any attraction to Apple. It's intentionally obtuse, you can't upgrade it yourself, all as a measure to force higher costs on their users.

Also, I used to work with them and they are the most underhanded, condescending, dirty little conniving assholes that it's ever been my professional displeasure to rely on for cooperation.

[Vector]

Only reason why I have it is that work was letting us have our old compies for $250 and I a. wanted to play Disco Elysium on it (didn't have my windows box at the time) but more importantly b. needed a teaching laptop and absolutely none of the peripheral hardware required actually worked with Linux.

[Dunamisdeos]

I mean, I wouldn't refuse to use it or anything, but it's my last choice. It's not like its 2x the quality for 2x the price. More like 2x the price for a different UI.

[McTraveller]

Eh, Apple is proprietary and is higher initial price - because you are actually paying the whole price*.  With Microsoft and Google and Facebook, you are "always" paying due to rent-seeking and advertising behavior.

Linux costs no dollars, but often does have non-dollar cost.

I don't really care about "open" or "proprietary", but I do care about rent-seeking***.  Microsoft is indeed more open than Apple these days - but I still prefer Apple's modus operandi, at least today.

*This is for Apple stuff proper. I don't count downloading "free" iOS Apps, because those do have advertising in them.  When you buy a Mac, or an iOS device and don't download any ad-ware - that's it.  Apple isn't getting money for your eyeballs**.

**Ok sort of - Apple gets bucketloads of cash to make Google their default search engine.

***I don't count the Apple App Store 30% commission as rent-seeking, because they only get that cash at transaction time - it's not a continuous payment.  It might be a high commission yes, but it's not rent-seeking in the modern sense.

[methylatedspirit]

My beef with Apple, apart from the proprietary nonsense, is that they impede repair at every possible step. Really, that's related to the fact that they break standards at every possible opportunity, since repairability is strongly correlated with standardization. If you replace the home button on an iPhone at a 3rd party store, its fingerprint sensor will never work, because the security stuff associated with it is tied to Apple themselves. Only they can reprogram it right. I don't know why you'd store security information in a friggin' fingerprint sensor, but there you go.

IIRC, one of us tried repairing a MacOS laptop, and you can't even make a boot disk without paying for software! There's a free trial, but still. Rufus, usually the Ol' Reliable of boot disk production, will not work with MacOS. Buncha dicks Apple are.

[Dunamisdeos]

Because then they can charge you for repairs.

Dats it.

[Egan_BW]

apple is shit

[ArchimedesWojak]

(never mind it doesn't fit here)

[George_Chickens]

(never mind it doesn't fit here)

I agree. Apple doesn't fit anywhere but the darkest, deepest sulfur cracks of hell.

[Dunamisdeos]

Rufus, usually the Ol' Reliable of boot disk production, will not work with MacOS. Buncha dicks Apple are.

They market this as "Our proprietary everything is of higher quality, and THE MAN just doesn't want to make compatible tools for our superior product that is designed to service you, the savviest of users".

The reality is "Ok, someone made a tool that lets them circumvent our paid service dept? Time to redesign our systems to defend against this financial attack".

[methylatedspirit]

I have these new Bluetooth earbuds, I love them, they sound great, but there's one flaw with them: the right earbud tends to emit a high-pitched buzzing noise. Really high-pitched, somewhere in the 15 KHz range. What kinda problem would cause that? It's annoying me.

[Dunamisdeos]

Obviously the government microchips in your bloodstream have gotten stuck in your ears.

Solution: Remove ears.

[George_Chickens]

Obviously the government microchips in your bloodstream have gotten stuck in your ears.

Solution: Remove ears.

You also need to remove all of your blood.

[King Zultan]

I have never gotten why people make it seem like Apple is so much better than every other brand, because as far as I can tell it's pretty much the same as other stuff but it costs way more any you can only use special apple branded stuff with it.