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[Kagus]

Vancouver has weed.  We'll happily take Amsterdam's tourist money if they don't want it.

Just uh, don't don't get your hard drugs here because they will kill you.

Got any sex to go along with that weed?

[Levi]

Yeah (not legal though), but from what I've seen you'd rather not.   

[Kagus]

Yeah (not legal though), but from what I've seen you'd rather not.   

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[TamerVirus]

Vancouver has weed.  We'll happily take Amsterdam's tourist money if they don't want it.

Just uh, don't don't get your hard drugs here because they will kill you.

Who's "they"?
The Canadians?!?

[Levi]

No, the drugs themselves.  We've got a bit of a problem of people mixing fentanyl into heroin and its killing a LOT of people here.     Government doesn't care though because drug users aren't real people.

[wierd]

Yo Dawg!

We heard you like opioids!  So we added an opioid to your opioid, so you can get high while you get high!


(sigh)

More than likely, it's a combination of economics, and perceived intensity of the highs produced.

Fentanyl is a VERY high power opioid. It is used in end of life care, much like morphine. It is absurdly powerful stuff, and has a valid medical use for people dying of untreatable conditions, like bone cancer-- that are unimaginably painful without it.

Heroin is a recreational drug produced from opium, and is less potent than Fentanyl. People used to a dosage regimen of heroin will not know that they need to strongly cut back on their dosage, if that heroin has been mixed with fentanyl. As such, they take the dose "they are used to", and it subsequently kills them dead as hell.

The drug dealers use the fentanyl because it is more potent per miligram than heroin, allowing them to carry more value per ounce.  Pure economics.


Sadly, the knowledge that "Hey, this shit is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ordinary heroin" only gets met with 'FUCK YEAH! Gimme some!"

[Kagus]

More potent, and also is (or at least was for a very long time) available for much cheaper getting it from China than actual heroin.

There have even been cuts discovered in circulation that were mixed with carfentanyl, because seriously... Fuck living.

[Grim Portent]

Had my job interview today and now I'm dealing with this sense of dread because I really would like this job but my brain's throwing a fit and saying I won't get it.

I hate my brain chemistry.

[Folly]

Shooting in Virginia.
Thoughts and prayers. I feel like the former is disingenuous, and the latter useless.

[Yoink]

Sadly, the knowledge that "Hey, this shit is WAAAAAAY more powerful than ordinary heroin" only gets met with 'FUCK YEAH! Gimme some!"

I watched a Youtube doco yesterday which said that, once an addict gets past a certain stage of tolerance, fentanyl becomes the only way they can get high, with regular heroin, morphine et al not even enough to alleviate their withdrawal symptoms. Shit's fucked.     

[Dunamisdeos]

I'm OK with genuine sympathy being offered even if you also believe in God. Thank you.

[itisnotlogical]

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"

[Rolan7]

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"

Yeah, almost nobody I know well calls for non-emergency reasons.  Which makes it more annoying when I get called by telemarketers, scammers, or have to expect calls from businesses which just do things that way.

Direct family gets a pass I guess, though I'm glad my dad usually prefers text or skype like I do.  Though he and mom tend to voice call if I don't visit one of them for too long, which is fair and okay I suppose.

General business though?  Fuck, just use asynchronous communication, it's what it's there for.  It makes me think they're being willfully difficult.

[Iduno]

Heroin is a recreational drug produced from opium, and is less potent than Fentanyl.

Also relevant to the thread, it was designed to get people off morphine, because it was relatively not too addictive. For some reason (money), opium derivatives are still handed out like candy, and people are "surprised" at how addictive they are.

[heydude6]

Why do people still do phone calls? Literally why?

Email, text message, instant message, snail mail, carrier pigeon: Receive information regardless of whether you're at home, at work, asleep, cooking, driving, etc. and respond any time that's convenient because they'll get the information at some point, whether or not anybody can answer right this second.

Phone call: "Hi, sorry we missed you! We're closing in 5 minutes and the next time you'll be able to call us back is in 4 days, give or take the time it takes the operator to get the biscuits out of their ears and pick up. We'll just keep calling you and hope random chance catches you at a moment when you're able to answer. We won't tell you what we want over voice mail because it's a surprise, tee hee~"

Yeah, almost nobody I know well calls for non-emergency reasons.  Which makes it more annoying when I get called by telemarketers, scammers, or have to expect calls from businesses which just do things that way.

Direct family gets a pass I guess, though I'm glad my dad usually prefers text or skype like I do.  Though he and mom tend to voice call if I don't visit one of them for too long, which is fair and okay I suppose.

General business though?  Fuck, just use asynchronous communication, it's what it's there for.  It makes me think they're being willfully difficult.

Try having a deep and personal conversation over text before you diss phone calls. With text, what would normally take an hour instead takes a day or more. Typing out the long replies that such a conversation requires is a pain, and you’ll frequently receive texts while you’re still typing a reply. Not to mention the fact that with texts, people sometimes stop replying mid conversation and you have no idea wtf is happening on their end. Sometimes they forget and don’t get back to you.

With phones it’s very clear when a conversation is over, you have the benefits of listening to a real voice, and you’re more likely to actually finish it and thus get something useful out of it.