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[Frumple]

The proposition of intelligent design was one of the greatest acts of character assassination in human history, yup. You don't make human biology without either a great deal of ignorance or malice aforethought.

[McTraveller]

Eh, in Judeo-Christian thought it's neither ignorance nor malice. It's basically an imposed check due to humanity trying to usurp God.  Malice isn't in the effect itself, it's in the intent. Consider: you can lock someone up out of malice, or out of an actual legitimate pure sense of trying to protect others.  So physical hardships of life do not necessarily imply malice or ignorance.

[Great Order]

That doesn't make it much better.

"You get piles because you wanted to be better than me!"

[Kagus]

"This nerve? This one goes straight to the brain. But the other one there has to go down the neck and make a loop around the heart first before heading back up, 'cause fuck you"

[Grim Portent]

"This nerve? This one goes straight to the brain. But the other one there has to go down the neck and make a loop around the heart first before heading back up, 'cause fuck you"

I'd say giraffes get the worse deal out that being a basal trait of terestrial vertebrates.

The recurrent layngeal nerve is just one of those fascinatingly bad designs for anything that isn't a fish, the only saving grace being how fast nerves work making it usually not a problem. Imagine how unnecessarily long the damn thing must have been in sauropods, cause damn that's a lot of wasted nerve.

[Frumple]

Eh, in Judeo-Christian thought it's neither ignorance nor malice. It's basically an imposed check due to humanity trying to usurp God.  Malice isn't in the effect itself, it's in the intent. Consider: you can lock someone up out of malice, or out of an actual legitimate pure sense of trying to protect others.  So physical hardships of life do not necessarily imply malice or ignorance.

Consider for a moment the person that would try to teach their child a lesson by viciously maiming and torturing them. Consider further that, just like many things, vicious, chronic torture is really, really shit at teaching humans anything other than specifically the avoidance of that torture.

You can't viciously torture someone (millions upon millions of someones, even!) out of anything except malice or incredibly brutal ignorance, especially when other, better options both exist and are within your capability. If you were talking something other than human biology, which goes so screamingly far beyond just physical hardship human language fails to adequately describe it, maybe. "Physical hardships" don't necessarily imply malice or ignorance, no.

Human biology sure as hell does. You don't get out of "didn't know what the hell they were doing" or "staggeringly evil sadistic monster" without trying to get into the weeds of religious language and redefining words until they no longer mean anything even remotely resembling the common usage. Not when looking at the incredibly broad list of failure states involved with the physical form.

Greatest. Character assassination. In human history. One of, anyway. It's hard to top pinning something with the blame for what biology does to things. Murders tri-omni theology faster than SIDS offs a toddler

[martinuzz]

If a creator were any kind of real biologist he would have said 'go forth and divide', not 'multiply'.

[McTraveller]

I think god must've known that people have a harder time doing division than multiplication, which is why it was phrased that way.

EDIT: I put some penetrating oil on my chair because it was creaking every time I leaned back. Now my office smells like oil, and it has for like 3 days. I didn't really expect the oil was that volatile/fragrant.