Two of the sources you provide are women who work in the industries fighting discrimination, not outsiders calling for quotas which is what it is in every quality industry.
Right. Exactly. Thank you for making my point? I wasn't talking about calling for quotas, I was talking about how women want to be treated as equals in blue collar work which LordBucket said that there were no calls for. Which is wrong. Which is why I gave the links.
I kind of have to ask you which feminism you're even talking about as no one disagreed with me that it was not a monolithic entity, and now it is thread canon that there is far more than one kind. I am a feminist, for instance, and I don't think women are incapable of rising to a challenge. It seems like you do though as you don't think any woman could possibly pull someone from a burning building? Your last two paragraphs don't maintain internal consistency.
There aren't any calls for an equal amount of women to be brought in to blue collar industries, though. Those are groups of individual women
who are already in the industry saying that there's discrimination there. That's a whole different ball game compared to what the thread is about and what LordBucket seemed to be referring to. Go back and read through what he said.
There are probably a number of women who could pull someone from a burning building. They are, however, a very driven and minor percentage of the female population. A much larger percentage of the male population is capable of doing this.
Compare the fitness standards required for male and female police officers and male and female firefighters. The standards are very much night and day. I imagine there aren't enough women fit enough to fulfill 5% of the firefighting force if they were held to male standards.
Instead, female standards were lowered so that more women could get into firefighting and even then the tests are failed at an outstanding rate. They're still let in, though, in case people cry of discrimination. The police standards are pretty low in the UK and yet women were failing the tests 49% of the time until standards were lowered.
The reality of it is that women and men are different, have different life choices, have different goals, have different abilities. Ensuring quotas just means standards are lowered for one group of the population instead of ensuring equality. And that's never a good thing.
(On this note, male standards about 20 years back in Britain as men used to need to be 5'10" tall to join the police force. It was claimed that it was discriminating against short people, which it was, but I fail to see how that's a bad thing.)