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[fillipk]

Why aren't you sorry for getting a townie lynched?

Because I thought he was scum and he was getting on my nerves almost all of day 1, now if I could go back and redo it with the knowledge I have now sure I would change who I lynched but as it stands I'm not sorry.

[O.Wilde]

O.Wilde: Can I call you Oscar? It's really bugging me.

Feel free.

Also, your confusion. Confused town might spend time trying to figure out wtf just happened, and thus not scumhunt.

But wouldn't throwing an entirely new player into the mix do that more effectively than just removing one? It's not exactly possible to really determine their motives, but it's strange.

Fillipk, do you still think your original case was strong enough to warrant a lynch, or was he 'getting on your nerves' hard enough to warrant killing a townie?

[hector13]

You lynched someone because they were getting on your nerves?

Maybe it's a good thing roo wasn't playing...

[origamiscienceguy]

Why aren't you sorry for getting a townie lynched?

Because I thought he was scum and he was getting on my nerves almost all of day 1, now if I could go back and redo it with the knowledge I have now sure I would change who I lynched but as it stands I'm not sorry.

I have been in the same boat as you before with roo instead, so I understand why you feel this way, but after a while, I realized it was quite foolish to vote somebody just because they annoyed me. Try not to do this in the future.

[fillipk]

You lynched someone because they were getting on your nerves?

Maybe it's a good thing roo wasn't playing...

Roo I can deal with and if I truely thought Heydude was town I wouldn't lynch him, maybe I should have relooked at the evidence I was using because I might have called it off, but I tunneled vision at the end and it was his, let's just call the whole thing off attitude that got me seeing red, it doesn't excuse my tunnel vision though, I'll be more careful next time.

Back to scum hunting.  PFP but I remember some of you supporting me without actually voting heydude, explain please.

[Deus Asmoth]

Hmm. Well, killing an IC isn't really that unexpected of a move. It's possible that the scum team killed Tawa rather than taking a gamble on whoever replaced him, or they just wanted a kill that didn't provide much in the way of feedback to the town.

At the moment I'm still inclined towards thinking that TMS is scum, but I haven't properly re-evaluated that position yet.

fillipk: because I didn't think heydude was scum, and voting for the person I wanted to vote for would have resulted in a tie with minutes to go before the end of the day.

[O.Wilde]

Alright so. Seven players remaining.

-1 Basic Scum
-1 Scum Rolecop
-1 Cop or Towny (If towny, Jailkeeper is in play.)
-1 Jailkeeper or Towny (If Towny, Cop is in play.)
-3 Townies

Yikes.

Deus Asmoth
hector13
fillipk
The Moonlit Shadow
origamiscienceguy

5 people I can talk to. Yikes.

To paraphrase Wilde, why is it suspicious to you that he didn't answer a question that not only was not addressed to him, but was addressed specifically to someone else?

Moonlit, are you going to answer this? The only reason I'm not voting you right now is I don't think 2 votes on you are warranted just yet.

@Owilde bravo you intelligently deconstructed my post, thank you.

I couldn't put my finger on why this made me so uncomfortable earlier, but not I think I have it. I interpreted this as a sarcastic jab at my smartassery. Is that a correct interpretation?

Origami, you're fairly new in this game. What're you thinking as far as scum in our currently active players? IE: Not H4zard.

Get to scumhunting

Great plan. Why don't you start? All you've done so far is a softball easily dodged question, and a short little comment on fillipk's bloodthirstiness.

[hector13]

Why are you eliminating Hazard, O. Wilde?

[O.Wilde]

Because I can do this:

Okay, i can still large-posting at this time.
O.Wilde: If there is any better question, ask him too. Is there any more questions that you could ask to woodward(and everyone)?
fillipk: How do you mind?
rOO:Do you answer questions? How do you mind?

I just wanted to know how they were gonna claim it.

heydude6: Is it a bad idea saying your intentions?
Deus Asmoth: Is it a bad idea asking for claims early and if so, how(and why)?
Tawarochir: Is it a bad idea posting a vote and unvote for the vote in the post and if so, how(and why)?
Everyone: Is it a bad idea i was saying 'is it a bad idea' on the 3 last questions(or 4 or 5, depending on your mind)?
Do you know what i am talking about the 'how do you mind' question at fillipk and roo? (hint: It's not the exact same question. It's 'about' a different thing.)

So the main thing is RVS votes don't matter until the person seriously makes a case that the guy is scum, until then try not to bandwagon or take it to seriously.

Which means... roo should be ignored d1. If you want to kill lynch him, do it at d2.
Also, do you get any idea what is this question directed at you?

fillipk: How do you mind?

PFT(you get it?)

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Unless he says something crazy other than simple votes(votes include obv/really scum are simple votes too), lynch at d2.

3 posts. That's how much he's done. I'm not going to ask anyone to try and form an opinion about someone based on their 3 whole posts over the entire of day 1. It's gonna suck a lot if he turns out to be scum, but I can't hunt, and neither can anyone else, if someone is literally not involved in the game.

[fillipk]

@Owilde bravo you intelligently deconstructed my post, thank you.

I couldn't put my finger on why this made me so uncomfortable earlier, but not I think I have it. I interpreted this as a sarcastic jab at my smartassery. Is that a correct interpretation?

No you are just playing real good and I was trying to compliment you, sorry it came off as sarcastic, probably an undercurrent at that time.

[Tawa]

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[O.Wilde]

@Owilde bravo you intelligently deconstructed my post, thank you.

I couldn't put my finger on why this made me so uncomfortable earlier, but not I think I have it. I interpreted this as a sarcastic jab at my smartassery. Is that a correct interpretation?

No you are just playing real good and I was trying to compliment you, sorry it came off as sarcastic, probably an undercurrent at that time.

See, that's less confusing but a hell of a lot more suspicious. It didn't strike me as odd till Deus mentioned it, but why are you being so friendly towards me?

[O.Wilde]

@Owilde bravo you intelligently deconstructed my post, thank you.

I couldn't put my finger on why this made me so uncomfortable earlier, but not I think I have it. I interpreted this as a sarcastic jab at my smartassery. Is that a correct interpretation?

No you are just playing real good and I was trying to compliment you, sorry it came off as sarcastic, probably an undercurrent at that time.

See, that's less confusing but a hell of a lot more suspicious. It didn't strike me as odd till Deus mentioned it, but why are you being so friendly towards me?

I mean, let's be honest. That post was mainly me being a dickhead. Let's take a look at it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Let's run through the scenarios shall we.

1. I can already tell this is terrible and WIFOM-y.

You are town, you decide to do a lurker sweep and check on whoever hasn't posted, you see two people haven't posted, one because they haven't been on and the other just because I guess.  Well look see here, someone was voting the guy who hasn't been on since the beginning of the game, I'm going to pressure that person instead of the person who has been on the forum yet hasn't posted.

2. This is not garbage. Bravo.

That one seems a bit far-fetched to me, simply because you went out of your way to check their profiles, yet you neglected to look at the date and time stamp on my post.

3. I do the exact same thing, the thread kinda tends to run together. Heydude, did you or did you not note the time on his post vs. the profile times?

Not only that, but nothing interesting had happened up until that point so I had no reason to switch my vote, and thus my vote did not deserve pressure as much as the guy neglecting to post in this thread.

4. Literally nobody cares what you deserve or don't deserve. You got what you got, and we've kinda moved on at this point from the original issue that tore these two compatriots asunder  . To quote myself:

Own up when your arguments don't make sense, and don't whine.

Now how about if you were Mafia and Roo was your scum partner.  I'm doing a lurker sweep because that is what a town would do and I want to look town, now I find two lurkers, this random guy who hasn't posted for whatever reason but has been on the forum and my scum partner who hasn't.  Now look someone is voting my scum partner and that is bad, I'm going to apply pressure to see if they back off stating that this random guy is lurking and my scum partner is not.

5. Or they would not do that because it's a massive scumtell when you try to defend someone that is later lynched. That's possible, granted, especially in a BM, but I don't think Heydude is that stupid.

That scenario seems a little bit more likely to be honest

6. Ahhhhhh, the scenario that forwards your agenda seems more likely to you. I can't imagine why. It's incredible how things turn out so well.

because why would a town pressure someone on their RVS stage vote when there is a lurker to go after that will get more information circulating and still get that RVS voter to respond in a more subtle way.

7. Because people like taking the direct route? Not everyone is gonna lightly poke people and then see what EVERYONE else around them does. Plus, pressuring people on their RVS votes is what kicks us out of RVS.

1. Dickhead. Rude and unnecessary. I was trying to poke you.
2. Still rude.
4. Extremely rude, I'm a dickhead.
6. Dickhead. Sarcasm.
7. Rude towards the middle.

[origamiscienceguy]

Fillipk, I agree with Wilde. All of those posts look like sarcasm.

And hello Tawa.

[O.Wilde]

And hello Tawa.

And goodbye Tawa ;-;