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[TheDarkStar]

There are a few people who have not posted in the last 24 hours. They will receive prods.

Votecount coming eventually.

[fillipk]

Roo has too modes, the weird I do what I want and irritate everyone mode, and the play normally mode, I want to know which one is playing with us before I make an alignment judgement on anyone else.  And you are over analyzing it its just an RVS but it could turn real, depends on how Roo responds.

[O.Wilde]

O.Wilde: If there is any better question, ask him too. Is there any more questions that you could ask to woodward(and everyone)?
Everyone: Is it a bad idea i was saying 'is it a bad idea' on the 3 last questions(or 4 or 5, depending on your mind)?

Hmmm, that's a good idea. Maybe when he wakes up I'll think of something.

Not really, it's RVS questions, so who cares?

O. Wilde Wasnt sure if those were real questions or examples of RVS. I don't think filipk will survive the game, but there really isn't anyone who I can say will survive. Or will die.

That's a pretty flip-floppy answer man, IDK. And they were both.

At what point did I ever express a desire to kill him

When you voted for him...[snip]

I'm voting you, but I don't particularly want you dead yet. We just started playing, it's pressure, we aren't even in the realm of about to lynch yet.

[heydude6]

Eh, it's fine then I guess. It's just that I really don't know the dynamics of RVS that well (if only there was some sort of experienced veteran to help! Oh, woe is me) so I've just been treating players like I would post RVS? This is my first game and I only somewhat know what I'm doing.

[fillipk]

So the main thing is RVS votes don't matter until the person seriously makes a case that the guy is scum, until then try not to bandwagon or take it to seriously.

[H4zardZ1]

So the main thing is RVS votes don't matter until the person seriously makes a case that the guy is scum, until then try not to bandwagon or take it to seriously.

Which means... roo should be ignored d1. If you want to kill lynch him, do it at d2.
Also, do you get any idea what is this question directed at you?

fillipk: How do you mind?

[O.Wilde]

So the main thing is RVS votes don't matter until the person seriously makes a case that the guy is scum, until then try not to bandwagon or take it to seriously.

Which means... roo should be ignored d1. If you want to kill lynch him, do it at d2.

Why?

[Tawa]

Tawarochoir what is your opinion on Roo? What is your opinion on how others are reacting to him?

I think the others are being a little hard on him. They should at least see how he's behaving this time around before voting him.

[heydude6]

Hello everyone, after a good nights sleep and a successful school day, I am back and ready to poke holes in people's arguements. Mainly Fillipk.

Now before we begin, let's have a recap

Spoiler: recap spoiled for skipping purposes (click to show/hide)

So it began when Fillipk decided to vote for Roo as part of an RVS

Roo what crazy gambit are you planning to pull this time?

That was fine, I just assumed it was a random vote for a random player. Later on, I decided to bring up the topic of lurkers when after doing some research, I realized that Roo hasn't been online during the duration of the whole game, he wasn't even lurking.

Why not pick on jwoodward48df?

Although I haven't figured out how to use lurkertraker yet, I checked his account at it's quite clear that he is lurking though. A bit suspicious, especially since he hasn't posted within the 2 days the game has been up.

Roo isn't a lurker, he has been offline before the game even began. Wait a minute...

So I decided to give Fillipk my own RVS.

Fillipk why did you target a player who has been offline for the duration of the entire game?!

Immediately, other players began explaining to me Roo's reputation...

Fillipk why did you target a player who has been offline for the duration of the entire game?!

roo has a bit of a... reputation preceding him.

Yep. Strange how Deus chose him, even if it would be an interesting choice. He must know that in beginner games with Roo, he is almost always the first day lynch. I'd avoid him just for that.

He has a... different... playstyle that ends up with town lynching him because they get annoyed. Includes: Saying that people are scum without showing proof; saying lolnope when asked to clarify and restating over and over that [insert name] is scum; etc.

And then Fillipk gave me his own answer about why he voted for Roo...

Because Roo has a reputation which has held true all of the games he's played, I want to know which Roo we have with us right now.

This part in bold was confusing, and so I continued my interrogation...

Because Roo has a reputation which has held true all of the games he's played, I want to know which Roo we have with us right now.

This sentence in bold is confusing. What exactly are you trying to know? If Roo is gonna start trolling this game? His alignment? If the former were the case, then I fail to understand how voting to get him lynched helps you accomplish that goal. As a matter of fact, lynching him will prevent you from knowing if he would have trolled this game.

Now trying to figure out his alignment makes more sense. He either flips town or scum and we get this:

It must suck playing a game like mafia where the guy who is supposed to be your ally is causing chaos and inadvertently helping the enemy. Eventually, in fear of the RNG having made him the scum you have to waste a lynch to make sure he isn't, no competent mafia would night kill such a guy.

over with as soon as possible. Thereby, giving a valid reason for wanting to kill him, and supporting the idea that this sentence was an expression of a desire to lynch him.

Fillipk then responded with this

Roo has too modes, the weird I do what I want and irritate everyone mode, and the play normally mode, I want to know which one is playing with us before I make an alignment judgement on anyone else.  And you are over analyzing it its just an RVS but it could turn real, depends on how Roo responds.

At the time, I considered this post reasonable and decided to call it a night

And now the recap is over. I still have some bones to with fillipk so let me continue where we left off.

Previously, you said that:

Roo has too modes, the weird I do what I want and irritate everyone mode, and the play normally mode, I want to know which one is playing with us before I make an alignment judgement on anyone else.  And you are over analyzing it its just an RVS but it could turn real, depends on how Roo responds.

But this contradiction still exists.

What exactly are you trying to know? If Roo is gonna start trolling this game? His alignment? If the former were the case, then I fail to understand how voting to get him lynched helps you accomplish that goal. As a matter of fact, lynching him will prevent you from knowing if he would have trolled this game.

How does voting for Roo help you determine if he engages troll mode or legit mode?

[TheDarkStar]

You argue and argue about who the aliens are. Also, one of you - roo - is oddly absent. Will you find the aliens? Is anyone going to die?


Votes:

roo (1) - fillipk
fillipk (2) - H4zardZ1, heydude6
The Moonlit Shadow -
heydude6 (1) - O. Wilde
O. Wilde -
H4zardZ1 -
jwoodward48df -
Tawarochir -
Deus Asmoth -
No lynch -

Not voting - Everyone


Day 1 ends at midnight UTC on the 26th of January, five days from now due to the weekend.

roo has been poked and will be replaced if he does not respond within 24 hours.

0/3 to extend -
0/5 to shorten -

[Deus Asmoth]

heydude, you mentioned in your first posts to fillipk that his behaviour in voting for roo was more bloodthirsty than it needed to be in comparison to other people. No one else is voting for roo, so what did you mean by that?

O.Wilde: at what point would you say we enter the realm of seriously wanting someone lynched?

[heydude6]

I am still voting you Fillipk though, your last post felt very bloodthirsty. Other guys have managed to vote against Roo while maintaining composure. Why not you?

((I read the post as if there was an exclamation mark at the end, if you want to follow my train of thought))

Vote was the wrong choice of words. What I meant to say was that when I asked why Fillpik voted for Roo when he was absent the entire game, Tawa and some other players chimed in and explained Roo's reputation in a calm manner

roo has a bit of a... reputation preceding him.

What do you mean?

He has a... different... playstyle that ends up with town lynching him because they get annoyed. Includes: Saying that people are scum without showing proof; saying lolnope when asked to clarify and restating over and over that [insert name] is scum; etc.

And then Fillipk said this:

Because Roo has a reputation which has held true all of the games he's played, I want to know which Roo we have with us right now.

((notice the bolded sentence))

In order to explain why I felt his post was bloodthirsty, first of all I interpreted the bolded sentence as meaning that he wanted to know Roo's alignment (by lynching him for example). The "right now" part also contributed to the overall bloodthirsty feel, giving the impression of impatience. And finally, the tone I read it in was the tone that would require the sentence to end in an explanation mark. Perhaps it was a mistake to read it that way but it's very difficult to figure out what the tone of a sentence is just through words.

Anyway, it was just a feeling that I acted on and then I got rewarded with some contradictions.

[fillipk]

There are 5 days and no hammers, 1 vote does not make me want to kill Roo, its an RVS thats a little bit less random.

[O.Wilde]

O.Wilde: at what point would you say we enter the realm of seriously wanting someone lynched?

Once someone that is currently voting actually says they want someone lynched. Honestly, I don't think anyone who is voting at the moment actually wants the person they're voting for dead right now. (Unless someone voting right now is scum, in which case of course they do.)

I guess if you want a more technical answer it would be once someone either reaffirms their vote is for real, or switches their vote.

[heydude6]

Eh, the only reason why I haven't unvoted yet is because with very the little evidence we do have, fillipk is the most likely person to be scum. It's perfectly possible that this is all just a misunderstanding but until a more likely candidate arrives, my vote is the same.