Since "sealing borders" remains, as ever, a right-wing fantasy rather than a real policy, it is not worth considering. It is laughable to believe that any country on the Mediterranean could prevent people from entering it. Lest you forget that one time a dead toddler face-down on a beach was on the front page of every news website...
I doubt it, reason being no one's trying it, whereas plenty of European countries support an open door policy or are like Greece, just an open door by default. The RN for example stopped patrolling because human traffickers kept contacting them directly over radio, which meant that some European politicians were giving emergency contacts out in a place where traffickers could find em. Couple that with NGOs assisting in the transport of migrants & the deletion of countries like Libya, the deletion of borders within the Schengen area and the general refusal of most Western European politicians to even consider the concept of a border - it seems rather curious to point to the policy as proof that the policy is the only way. It is also a bit too hyperbolic to suggest anyone is proposing a hermetic seal of borders; even countries like Hungary or even the UK still have people coming in by boat, plane, car or truck, but the point is people come in through channels where security can vet them - as opposed to simply coming in without any concern for safety.
And regardless, as said already, the reality of geopolitics makes neat little ideas like that impossible. The US could never have avoided giving visas to the 9/11 perpetrators so long as it insisted upon a relationship with our good friends in Saudi Arabia.
Change your politics then; Kissinger was wrong, you can't bomb people into agreement
Regulation and public opinion would just erode when not being looked at, well-paid in petrodollars. The same principle is true here - how many nations could France cut off? All of Francophone Africa? Russia too? The EU nations? You might as well Frexit at that point, and we see how well that would go.
A border =/= A blockade
France being France, I might recommend they follow their own history and declare state ownership of all religious buildings and ban all forms of religious schooling. Now there's a spicy meatball.
Considering how cartoons are enough to warrant political assassination I do wonder what the result of this would be. I suppose the terrible thing about these attacks is that a teacher was singled out for murder over a lesson in secular values, then more people were murdered when the President condemned the murderer's motive. Rather depressing innit
And so the words of prophecy come true at last, in all their horror.
Uckland did not deserve a leader such as Jezza, glorious in his path, beautiful and terrible as the dawn. No, for you it is the brand of the Torygods that shall mark your fate, eternally in austerity, ever-old but never dead. Gammonworld Now.
Corbyn's not necessarily dead in the water, as he's still fighting the decision to suspend him. Not saying a sequel's likely but he may survive the ides of covid
Maybe putting immigrants in a precarious situation is not the best solution; stress is a great contributor to most crimes, including of course terror crimes. I don't keep perfect track of what's happening in France (which is a shame, as I have French relatives), but since the refugee wave of 2015 Sweden has had a dozen or so arsons of temporary homes for immigrants, and I have a hard time thinking the state in which Le Pen garnered 34% the last presidential election has a general population much kinder to immigrants. I'd also like to remind that (and MSH did this already, kind of) immigrants are people, with human rights and needs. Making life harder for many for the crimes of a few borders on wanton cruelty, collective punishment if you will.
I don't know about France, but in the UK recent immigrants tend to be highly averse to radicalisation,
especially if they live in a poor and violent neighbourhood, and were disatisfied with their living conditions. Whereas our most violent and radicalised young'uns, tend to be from families that are well-educated, wealthier than most of the country, born in the country and well-integrated with good jobs and social networks - but prone to depression and viewed society very critically.
Presumably you only get to engage in political violence once all of your needs are met and you can begin pondering what is really important in life. I'm reminded of one of our students who recruited people with the message that:
"What prevents you from obtaining martyrdom and the pleasure of your Lord? Look around you while you sit in comfort and ask yourself, is this how you want to die?"
Literally calling on people to abandon material comfort in exchange for a higher purpose. You can find out more interesting stuff from this
profiles page which even provides breakdowns on roles & origins, including who was born into Islam or who converted.
Restricting the flow of people who wish to adjust the attitudes of your country with rather enthusiastic methods, may not do much to address why a significant proportion of your country wishes to already engage in enthusiastic attitude adjustment. Yet doing nothing and allowing more hostile persons in seems like a silly idea in the face of continued terror attacks. Regarding existing migrant communities and how continued terror attacks are just a result of Europeans not being friendly enough like Sweden, IDK Sweden didn't have to record bombings before they encouraged migration to their nation. Social security and a good neighbourhood only goes so far to convincing someone they really ought not to kill you
I do believe democracies do not work by relying on past politicians having had children, or that they hold their offices for life. Are you okay, LW?
European political candidates, like their American counterparts, are old and childless, not representative of the demographics of their constituencies or the demographic trends of the future. Whether they remain in office for aeons or swap for another elder makes no difference. The childless adj. is just to sarcastically remark on the phenomenon of most European national leaders being childless, a succint symbol of how most European policy lives in the now and expects the future to be someone else's problem.
The important thing to realise is that immigration is a huge factor in these attacks.
The key issue having been determined, policies managing immigration can be considered. Appropriate policies.
None of this happens if people are scared saying "yea, immigration is an issue" will result in their summary exile from progressive society.
A huge factor, where returning foreign fighters or newly arrived fighters are concerned. Yet the far greater concern is how do you convince a young man or young woman, from a wealthy or poor family, from a born-Muslim or convert life, from educated or uneducated - to choose values which are at a minimum tolerant of other faiths and observant of civil law, instead of listening to the cleric who says everyone else is an enemy and death is no sin
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