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[scriver]

Here in Sweden, if we count the Sweden Democrats as the equivalent, every party did their best to ostracise them in every way.

SD is now swaying back and forth between polls on the cusp of being the biggest party in Sweden.

[Cheesy Honkers]

clearly that's the reason why, scriver. being as rude as not to collaborate with nazis is a surefire way to give them influence

/s

[Cyroth]

LMAO Merkel declares election result "unforgivable" and demands immediate resignation and reelection of candidates in Thuringia local elections

In what looks like a rogue comedy sketch leaking into post-ironic reality, the results for the Thuringia elections turned spicy when the AfD revealed they supported the same candidate that Merkel's CDU party supported. Being rather shocked to wake up with the AfD in bed after a pint too many, the CDU flipped the tables and demanded their erstwhile ally resign and restart the elections, this time sans AfD support. It's not often you see one political party support another against their will.

Sadly, Merkel ranting against the results like that will probably only make the AfD more popular in the long run. Again. 

[scriver]

clearly that's the reason why, scriver. being as rude as not to collaborate with nazis is a surefire way to give them influence

/s

The point was to offer a counterperspective to Chairman's. Not ignoring them gives them influence, ignoring them gives them influence.

[ChairmanPoo]

Well, but in goverment they actually pull policies. It's not relative vote-influence, it's actually doing shit

Like sabotaging domestic violence laws:

Or making any school lesson that might say something they object to voluntary

In general one would think getting holocaust deniers in positions of power might be a bad idea...


This is all just scratching the surface btw. These guys are a bona-fide rebranding of old school National-Catholic Francoism.

[Cheesy Honkers]

clearly that's the reason why, scriver. being as rude as not to collaborate with nazis is a surefire way to give them influence

/s

The point was to offer a counterperspective to Chairman's. Not ignoring them gives them influence, ignoring them gives them influence.

the reason for the influence of fascism is, as it was before, lack of faith in liberal democracy (well founded at that) and a desire from capital to protect it's hold on power

[Egan_BW]

but what if we solved the fascism by just shooting the fascists

[scriver]

clearly that's the reason why, scriver. being as rude as not to collaborate with nazis is a surefire way to give them influence

/s

The point was to offer a counterperspective to Chairman's. Not ignoring them gives them influence, ignoring them gives them influence.

the reason for the influence of fascism is, as it was before, lack of faith in liberal democracy (well founded at that) and a desire from capital to protect it's hold on power

For Sweden it's more of a loss of faith in socialism as it died and became a rotting corpse suit for liberalism to wear. It has less to to with a "desire from capital to protect its power" as it is a growing spirit among the people of being fed up with liberal policies (without socialism being able to benefit from it since they're so inundated with liberalism that in many cases the "socialists" are the makers of the policies).

Side thought: I know liberalism in "liberal democracy" isn't the exact same thing as political liberalism, but it still hurts me to see Sweden counted as one. We had to drag the liberal pigs kicking and screaming to every democratic reform we ever pulled off. It should be called a socialist democracy, we're the ones who gave the people every voice they've ever had.

but what if we solved the fascism by just shooting the fascists

To beat the people wanting to kill people for their beliefs and identity, we had to become the people who kill over beliefs and identity

[Loud Whispers]

but what if we solved the fascism by just shooting the fascists

and then i got gun and shotted the fascists. but phone ring and i call.
"who dis? dis jon."
"no jon you are the fascists."
and then jon was the fascsists. but who was phone?

[Kagus]

Everyone loves a martyr.

[TD1]

The phone in this metaphor obviously represents the speaker's - Jon's - own conscience. It lends a didactic flavour to the piece's conceptual deconstructionism. The gun represents his needless aggression, the use of which plunges him into fascism - a counter-intuitive political allegiance which perhaps ties into the subject's own internal turmoil. Structurally and textually, the piece is decidedly basic. From this, one may determine that this is an internalised thought process defined by profound symbolism which, alas, the mind itself was not capable of properly expressing. If intentional, this basic structure could further represent the subject's competent grasp of self-realisation techniques; if unintentional, the subject may be presupposed to be of a lower IQ.

In which case, this metaphorical mode of critiquing and assessing the subject's own personal reality is an incredible achievement.

[ChairmanPoo]

It also menaces with spikes of obsidian


Btw:  despite the overt conservative Castilian bias of the source newspaper, I found this article interesting , as they talk about the different EU power blocks, and the different interests. I'd take the pathos about "striking it out alone" as part of the forementioned political melodrama though

[Cheesy Honkers]

For Sweden it's more of a loss of faith in socialism as it died and became a rotting corpse suit for liberalism to wear. It has less to to with a "desire from capital to protect its power" as it is a growing spirit among the people of being fed up with liberal policies (without socialism being able to benefit from it since they're so inundated with liberalism that in many cases the "socialists" are the makers of the policies).

Side thought: I know liberalism in "liberal democracy" isn't the exact same thing as political liberalism, but it still hurts me to see Sweden counted as one. We had to drag the liberal pigs kicking and screaming to every democratic reform we ever pulled off. It should be called a socialist democracy, we're the ones who gave the people every voice they've ever had.

It was a long time since I visited Sweden, but as far as I remember Sweden had still a large amount of aristocratic inherited wealth (like forests), most of the industry was held by capitalists, admittedly with a notably large state presence. I would hardly call Sweden socialist, by any means. No society in which a capitalist can accumulate wealth can be called socialist, though the term is so misused these days it's hard to avoid that error.

Note the amount of state owned businesses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Sweden

[scriver]

Wrong. That is a liberal capitalist's distorted view of socialism, created to deappropriate the functional socialist systems of the world from the socialist ideology. One might as well claim in response that a country can't be liberal if it has laws, it's an equally preposterous statement.

[Teneb]

Wrong. That is a liberal capitalist's distorted view of socialism, created to deappropriate the functional socialist systems of the world from the socialist ideology. One might as well claim in response that a country can't be liberal if it has laws, it's an equally preposterous statement.

Socialism kind of requires industries to be worker-owned, though.

Just because Sweden is less capitalistic, I'd not say it's actually socialist.