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[Loud Whispers]

Only problem though is that when you look at the results, it reads like a mixed/confused message since at least a third up to almost half of the conservative seats flipped to LibDem, a remain party. They definitely want change, but what do they want exactly? To remain? Would be nice to know the breakdown of these ‘other’ parties though. Sounds like the May 23rd EU election is the closest thing to a second referendum that Britons are going to get anytime in the future. Though I’ve read that EU elections have always been low turnout, lower than national elections oftentimes. So, low turnout for the UK region could muddy any sort of mandate messaging.

Yeah I'll wait until the May 23rd Election before pontificating further. The Brexit Party didn't stand in this election so Tory protest votes could only bleed to independents or to pro-Remain parties, especially with the implosion of UKIP (in a surprise turn of events, UKIP went to war with Nigel Farage, it didn't turn out well for UKIP).

It also looks like unionists in general took a hit in NI, but nowhere as dramatic as it did in England. So, no idea how that would affect things there.

I'd love to hear Th4DwArfy1 on this 1

[Kagus]

So, Norway's having some squabbles again. The second-in-command of the governing coalition and leader of Norway's hard conservative "Progressive Party" will be turning 50 on June 1st.

There was a small parliament gathering just recently congratulating her on her upcoming birthday, and after the niceties she took the opportunity to give a little political pep-talk...

Wherein she basically said "We stand ready to get out there and stomp on these damn socialists!", which was considered by some people to perhaps be a little bit harsh.

Her response has pretty much been "You had to be there, everyone in attendance knew what I really meant and was fine with it", but that "If some softies out there get offended then sure, I'll apologize and retract my statement".

Of all people, the former head of the mostly-conservative Christian People's Party came out and said "Words have meaning, and we have to be careful with how we use them", and that just because some parties may be politically opposed, everyone in parliament still needs to respect each other and work together in order for anything to work.


In other news, the Progressive Party's shining star of shittery, Sylvi Listhaug, has gotten herself a new ministry position after previously getting disgraced and removed following a vote of no confidence. Sylvi first started really making waves when the current coalition came into power and she was appointed as minister of immigration and integration, at which point she promptly and publicly stated "I have to lock my children indoors at night; there are just too many immigrants out there!", and then she later went on to get fucking ridiculed because she sat in the ocean with an inflatable survival suit on for a few minutes, then compared her experience to the refugees making the water crossing.

The thing that got her the vote of no confidence however was when she posted a meme about how the Labor party is too busy funding terrorists to bother with protecting Norway's citizens. Like and share!

This happened to occur on the same day as the premiere of a film dramatizing the events of July 22nd 2011, when a terrorist shot and killed a bunch of kids in the Labor party youth camp. Some folks felt Sylvi's timing and message were perhaps a bit in poor taste, and she was finally booted after a successful vote. She gave a speech basically saying "I'm sorry that you think what I did was wrong" and in general showed precisely zero recognition that it was maybe a little bit fucked up.

Anyways, yeah... This highly stable and wonderfully poised politician has now been named minister of health and elderly care, because it's not like she can shit on anything important in that department.

[TD1]

It also looks like unionists in general took a hit in NI, but nowhere as dramatic as it did in England. So, no idea how that would affect things there.

I'd love to hear Th4DwArfy1 on this 1

Reducing it to unionist vs. nationalist is a bit reductive. The DUP lost some seats, but increased its first-vote share. Sinn Fein decreased its vote share while the non-terrorist-originating SDLP gained.
Meanwhile, the so-called cross community Alliance party (basically Lib Dems who basically only tend to show up in Belfast) made significant gains, as did independents.
These trends don't conform to typical unionist vs. nationalist patterns, where weakness in the DUP is correlated with a sudden rise in Sinn Fein. I'd argue that the big parties staying mostly static with a bit of fluctuation isn't even necessarily wholly Brexit related. Don't forget that people are becoming increasingly fed up with both sides for not running the devolved government. Talks for which are apparently soon to start, as announced shortly before the election.

[scourge728]

Norway's hard conservative "Progressive Party"

Does Progressive mean something different in Norway?

[Kagus]

Norway's hard conservative "Progressive Party"

Does Progressive mean something different in Norway?

Actually? No. We just have some silly party names.

We have a conservative party called "Right", another conservative party called "Left", a third conservative party called "Center", a far-right called "Progressive" (Fremskrittspartiet, literally "The party of making progress". Originally founded as a contrarian party whose sole topic was voting "No" to whatever the leading party said "Yes" to), a green party that should be rainbow-colored for how many clowns it has in it, the Labor Party which is all show and no work, and then we get into the leftist parties with the Socialist Left Party and "Red". There's also the Christian People's Party, which has been undergoing an identity crisis for the past few years based on a split between the conservative members who follow Christian teachings versus the more liberal members who follow Christian ideals.

Then there are minority parties outside of parliament like The Alliance, which as you might have assumed from the name is all about getting Norway to completely cut off all ties to the rest of the world and just isolate itself.

For more fun political naming conventions, go ask Sweden what it means to be a Democrat.


In other news, Sylvi Listhaug's first announcement as the new minister of health and elderly care was "I'm not here to be the morality police; smoke, drink and eat as much red meat as you want". Memories are being racked, but so far nobody can recall asking her to be the morality police. We're off to a good start, in any case.

[scriver]

Yeah, it just means "the Progress Party" or "Progression Party".

For more fun political naming conventions, go ask Sweden what it means to be a Democrat.

Nothing in particular? Lots of our parties have "democrat" in their names.

[smjjames]

Yeah, it just means "the Progress Party" or "Progression Party".

For more fun political naming conventions, go ask Sweden what it means to be a Democrat.

Nothing in particular? Lots of our parties have "democrat" in their names.

Which is his point I guess.

It also looks like unionists in general took a hit in NI, but nowhere as dramatic as it did in England. So, no idea how that would affect things there.

I'd love to hear Th4DwArfy1 on this 1

Reducing it to unionist vs. nationalist is a bit reductive. The DUP lost some seats, but increased its first-vote share. Sinn Fein decreased its vote share while the non-terrorist-originating SDLP gained.
Meanwhile, the so-called cross community Alliance party (basically Lib Dems who basically only tend to show up in Belfast) made significant gains, as did independents.
These trends don't conform to typical unionist vs. nationalist patterns, where weakness in the DUP is correlated with a sudden rise in Sinn Fein. I'd argue that the big parties staying mostly static with a bit of fluctuation isn't even necessarily wholly Brexit related. Don't forget that people are becoming increasingly fed up with both sides for not running the devolved government. Talks for which are apparently soon to start, as announced shortly before the election.

Good point on it being a bit reductive, but that’s just due to my lack of knowledge on it. I’ve also read that some interpreted it as people being tired of the them-vs-us politics.

[Loud Whispers]

*The scene opens on a field. Blue skies. Theresa May is dressed in shorts and a cute shirt*

Kids: "Theresa Resign!"

Dora the explorer/Theresa May: "I can't hear youuuu." *cups hand to ear*

boris no swiping

[ChairmanPoo]

*The scene opens on a field. Blue skies. Theresa May is dressed in shorts and a cute shirt*

Kids: "Theresa Resign!"

Dora the explorer/Theresa May: "I can't hear youuuu." *cups hand to ear*

boris no swiping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQeS1Rzs6MM

[Loud Whispers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQeS1Rzs6MM

Thank you so much for this

[SaberToothTiger]

Meanwhile, a documentary about pedophilia in the Catholic Church has made quite a stir in Poland. The documentary is called "Tylko nie mów nikomu", which roughly means "Don't tell anyone". There are subtitles in English available. Link below, be warned it may not be for the faint of heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUvQ3W3nV4

[wierd]

I don't know why people are so "shock and awe" over pedophile priests.  Pederasty in the church has been **DOCUMENTED** by the vatican since at least the middle ages, and has been an endemic problem since forever.

What, do you think a culture of concealment cropped up overnight or something?

[Egan_BW]

Because things can be both common and the subject of intense dislike.

[Kagus]

Because things can be both common and the subject of intense dislike.

Like salty licorice.

[Loud Whispers]

I don't know why people are so "shock and awe" over pedophile priests.  Pederasty in the church has been **DOCUMENTED** by the vatican since at least the middle ages, and has been an endemic problem since forever.

What, do you think a culture of concealment cropped up overnight or something?

Being well-documented isn't the same as being well-known; what's more, much of the recent scandals the past few decades hasn't just been about pedophilia in the Church, it was also about how much the Vatican knew about this & covered it up