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[Sheb]

It's also probably a bit of a defensive huddle as they see their more traditional christian values under siege by forced immigration and continuous pushing of multiculturalism. After all, eastern european countries have plenty of expirience when it comes to being pushed around and stepped on by bigger players, it's only natural of them to act defensively, strenght of the pack and all that jazz.

Right, because everyone know that an independent judiciary is basically sharia law. Look it up sheeple!

[Teneb]

It's also probably a bit of a defensive huddle as they see their more traditional christian values under siege by forced immigration and continuous pushing of multiculturalism. After all, eastern european countries have plenty of expirience when it comes to being pushed around and stepped on by bigger players, it's only natural of them to act defensively, strenght of the pack and all that jazz.

Right, because everyone know that an independent judiciary is basically sharia law. Look it up sheeple!

Slippery slope. Not on your part, but theirs. If the EU can push for the Polish/Hungarian/Wherever judiciary to be the way they want to be, then they can push for other things. Might even be correct, but who knows.

[smjjames]

Looks like we've forgotten about the Catalonia snap election, which is tomorrow. Further information on it.

Kind of sounds like the separatists might get a close majority, hard to tell.

It's also probably a bit of a defensive huddle as they see their more traditional christian values under siege by forced immigration and continuous pushing of multiculturalism. After all, eastern european countries have plenty of expirience when it comes to being pushed around and stepped on by bigger players, it's only natural of them to act defensively, strenght of the pack and all that jazz.

Right, because everyone know that an independent judiciary is basically sharia law. Look it up sheeple!

Slippery slope. Not on your part, but theirs. If the EU can push for the Polish/Hungarian/Wherever judiciary to be the way they want to be, then they can push for other things. Might even be correct, but who knows.

Poland isn't backing down anyway.

[Sheb]

It's also probably a bit of a defensive huddle as they see their more traditional christian values under siege by forced immigration and continuous pushing of multiculturalism. After all, eastern european countries have plenty of expirience when it comes to being pushed around and stepped on by bigger players, it's only natural of them to act defensively, strenght of the pack and all that jazz.

Right, because everyone know that an independent judiciary is basically sharia law. Look it up sheeple!

Slippery slope. Not on your part, but theirs. If the EU can push for the Polish/Hungarian/Wherever judiciary to be the way they want to be, then they can push for other things. Might even be correct, but who knows.

More like Jopax mixing things up I think. The refugees quota are wildly unpopular in eastern Europe, but it's a separate issue. Even allies of Poland and Hungary on the refugee issues are siding with the Commission on the judiciary thing. It will be interesting to see exactly how the vote falls on the 29th of January.

[scriver]

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[TD1]

Lol, nice going Portugal and Spain.

Also, WTH Turkey?

[A Thing]

Seems like Turkey and Croatia are in desperate need of sex ed.

The Czechs... well, at least they're looking for a job.

[TD1]

I have a feeling that if Spain and Portugal teamed up, they could really go places. Portugal could kill people, and Spain could eat them, thereby making sure there was no evidence pointing towards the Portugese.

[hector13]

Do you have friends, scriver?

I’m sad they didn’t have separate things for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

[Loud Whispers]

Belarus being useful, Serbia maining Zerg, Romania seems usual, Belgium culturally enriched, Slovenia is my bois

[TD1]

They must only let their women use the internet in Italy.

[hector13]

lol @ Greece too late lads.

[scriver]

Do you have friends, scriver?

 

[smjjames]

Russia is like, philosophical in that one. Secret Buddhists?

Catalonia to Spain: Checkmate*, your move Spain as the separatist groups have roughly the same majority as they did before. The dynamics are a bit different though as the largest party is a group that want semi-autonomy in Spain. Still, it's Spain's move now since they're roughly back at square one.

*Yes, I know checkmate is game-over in chess.

[Ametsala]

Uhh.. It's not Spain's move until Catalonia forms a new regional government. And the vote was about 50/50. Again. So not checkmate. The pro-independence parties got slightly more seats, but slightly under 50 % of the vote. With such numbers, if Pudgemount & pals decide to declare independence unilaterally again, it won't be recognized. Except maybe by Trump and/or Putin, because they don't like united Europe.

Half of the Catalan population don't want independence. If independence would be so great for Catalonia, why can't Pudgemount & pals sell the independence idea to them? Are they doing this the British way?

Here are some questions I'd like to know about the Catalan independence movement:
Why should Catalonia become independent? ("Spain sucks" is not a satisfactory answer.)
What would independent Catalonia be like? (Realistically. "Member of the EU" is not realistic, unless Catalans manage to sell their independence idea to Spain first.)
They want independence, but want to be part of the EU as well. How much more independence would this get them really?

Honestly, it seems to me the pro-independence agitators are just that. Petty politicians who have nothing better to do than try to grab more power for themselves. If the only thing the Catalan parliament does is organize an independence referendum once a year, it serves no purpose.