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[scriver]

I dont even know what's supposed to be different about thin crust pizza from ordinary pizza. Some pizza are thin all over. Some pizza are a bit puffier at the edges. Is that what you mean?

[martinuzz]

Going the other direction, do you have thin crust Pizza in Europe or do you consider that heresy?

They have two kinds of crust here. Standard, which is the hersesy that Americans dare call pizza, but is in fact low-sugar donut dough or something like that. It's disgusting. And then they have 'Italian crust', which is basically the same, but rolled out thinner.

It keeps confusing me. WIth a culture made up of quite a few Italian immigrants, how did the US get pizza so wrong?

[Frumple]

They didn't, because thin crust is plenty prolific. We didn't get things wrong, we just got them more right :V

What, you've never heard of New York Pizza? That's like the McDonalds of Pizza, they're everywhere.

... in any case, double checking some things I'm not actually sure if I've seen that pizza chain or not. There's two different variations of New York Pizza <something> in the nearest city-ish thing, but I can't seem to tell if they're part of the chain or not.

It actually looks kinda' doubtful, since the company itself being lawed at is apparently headquartered in the netherlands and has only been around since '93 -- and I'm pretty sure one of the new york somethings in the mentioned town has been there longer than that, heh.

There also doesn't actually seem to be a chain specifically named that of note, or at all, stateside. Some variation on the name is borderline generic so far as pizza joints go over here, but I'm pretty sure most of them aren't particularly related.

[martinuzz]

It actually looks kinda' doubtful, since the company itself being lawed at is apparently headquartered in the netherlands and has only been around since '93 -- and I'm pretty sure one of the new york somethings in the mentioned town has been there longer than that, heh.

That's not unusual. The Netherlands is the tax refuge for a lot of US chains. Apple has it's hq in the Netherlands as well, and so does Google, purely to dodge taxes. We call them 'mailbox companies'. There's been a public cry-out (and EU pressure) to stop being a tax refuge, but little political will to actually do something about it.

[Frumple]

Oh, sure, but as near as I can tell that's not happening in this case. The New York Pizza being referenced is, as near as I can tell, largely a strictly european chain. Going by what google translate is spitting out when pointed to the history bit in the about section of their site, the company just straight up didn't exist until '93, and their first joint was in amsterdam. Chain itself looks a lot like it's limited to the netherlands and a bit of germany.

[scriver]

They didn't, because thin crust is plenty prolific. We didn't get things wrong, we just got them more right :V

Hehehe, the best kind of viewpoint.

I've never heard of any pizza chain called "New York Puzza" either so that might be a Holland only chain. But then again I've isolated myself on the countryside for years now so I don't exactly have a huge familiarity with what kind of fast food chains there is in the bigger cities.

Also what, doughnut dough? The fuck? How could you ever even serve pizza on something so soft and spungy and moist pastry?

[Frumple]

Eh, it can work. There's tougher donuts if you're not after the softer sort, and most of its consistency et al has more to do with the cooking and the extra bits than the primary component. The dough itself for pizza isn't really the exact same sort, though, or at least the prep's different enough it's hard to think them the same.

... usually, anyway. Someone out there's probably just straight up made a pizza crust out of donuts. I've certainly put donuts on pizza, before. Was tasty.

[scriver]

The biggest problem with making pizza from doughnut dough is that you miss out on all the content that's supposed to go where the hole is now.

[Frumple]

D... donut dough doesn't come with a hole in it. The things don't even necessarily have a hole at all. Like, I'm guessing you know that, but just to be sure...

In any case, what's done is fill the hole with more dough and delicious accompanying pizzabits. Kinda' like a creme filled donut or donut hole or somethin', just... pizza-y.

[Criptfeind]

Also just so like. We're clear. American pizza isn't made with donut dough on the whole. That's like. Also considered a weird thing here. Pizza donuts. Frumples talked about this before. So I guess it's a thing for him. But it's not a super common american past time thing. It's a classic Frumple. Sounds like it could be good though.

You know. To not mislead our friends from overseas...

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I make pizza exclusively with organic vegan locust flower paninis

[Frumple]

Also just so like. We're clear. American pizza isn't made with donut dough on the whole. That's like. Also considered a weird thing here. Pizza donuts. Frumples talked about this before. So I guess it's a thing for him. But it's not a super common american past time thing. It's a classic Frumple. Sounds like it could be good though.

You know. To not mislead our friends from overseas...

Thoooough, pizza bagels actually are somewhat common (or at least not particularly unusual) over here, just to throw some confusion into things. There's bread things with holes in them that get pizzabits put on 'em, there's just usually not sweet things involved, too (save to the extent pineapple or somethin' gets tossed around, anyway).

But yeah, generally donuts don't really get mixed up with pizza unless someone involved is very bored and has an excess of leftover pizza and donuts. Like, maybe the dough does, but far as I'm aware most dough-things (particularly restaurant dough-things) don't really involve many different kinds of dough, just particular ways of preparing one or two sorts.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Just don't ask any Europeans what they think lemonade is.

[Criptfeind]

Just don't ask any Europeans what they think lemonade is.

Looked this up and honestly we should have left the Europeans to the soviets.

[Frumple]

... kinda' looks like it's just lemon soda? Which isn't much like lemonade, but I'unno if it's worth the gulags.

We even more or less got the stuff (right down to calling it the same thing), I think, we just tend to dye it. Minute maid pink lemonade type stuff. If I was feelin' frisky I could pick some up in the drink aisle of, if not the nearest grocery story, then at least the nearest non-mom-and-pops one.

Wanted the exact same it'd take going a bit further out and hitting up one of those import-junk joints, but still doable.

E: Actually think there might some kind of mexican/south american import thing that's about that, too. J-something for the common brand name that seems to be ending up in the US?