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[Sheb]

ironic jizya

What a world we live in.

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah I've only seen them do ironic jizya where they force them to give up all their hidden wealth and once the wealth runs out, kill them and take their daughters with forcible conversion. You'd think forcible conversion wouldn't be so bad because there's always the hope of escape and reconversion, but the penalty for leaving the faith is death so it's pretty shit with a hope of shit and an expectation of lifetime shit

And even if they do escape they will probably be cast out by their Christian families because they lost their virginity to a muslim.

They won't have a family
Cos ISIS

[martinuzz]

The IMF warns (again) that the Greek economy will completely implode if the EU does not waiver it's debts, and allow it to invest in it's economy and infrastructure again, instead of forcing budgetary restrictions.
According to them, if nothing changes, the Greek deficit will grow to be nearly 3 times the country's GDP in 2060

[Sergarr]

It's 2017 and Greece is still fucked up. The national/local governments of Europe have shown complete ineptitude at dealing with problems. The Federal EU government should be given more power, why isn't it being given more power?

[MorleyDev]

It's 2017 and Greece is still fucked up. The national/local governments of Europe have shown complete ineptitude at dealing with problems. The Federal EU government should be given more power, why isn't it being given more power?

A few key members have been fighting giving the EU any more powers. Fortunately, the chief resistor is now dead set of leaving, consequences be damned (But we'll save that for the Brexit thread). EU may actually become a lot more productive and efficient soon. Unfortunately, I still live in the chief resistor. For now.

At some point, governments will just have to say enough is enough. Large national debts have been forgiven and wiped before, considering just about every country is in at least some debt it's starting to all just look ridiculous when everyone owes everyone else money.

[redwallzyl]

i think you guys have an articles of confederation type problem. you want things done that require a strong central control or a willingness to spend your effort but when it comes to actually giving it no one wants to front the money and effort and when the central administration attempts go get stuff everyone cry's "but my sovereignty" and nothing gets done in the end.

[SirQuiamus]

It's 2017 and Greece is still fucked up. The national/local governments of Europe have shown complete ineptitude at dealing with problems. The Federal EU government should be given more power, why isn't it being given more power?

Because The national/local governments of Europe == The Federal EU government?

That's the whole problem, whether you're looking at this from a nationalist or a unionist point of view.

[martinuzz]

Privacy debate flames up in the Netherlands after a 68 year old woman committed suicide, after our national police tv showed footage of her stealing a wallet that was left unattended by another old lady. After her face showed up on the internet, it didn't take long for internet public to find her identity, and spam her with curses and death threats, after which she committed suicide.

Police and national tv are under fire now. Public opinion is that they should not have showed the woman without blurring her face, for such a minor crime. Police defends it's choice by saying it had exhausted other means of finding the woman's identity, so they felt they needed to show her face to let the public help track her down.

[smjjames]

So, um, I guess Toady One is letting the AmeriPol thread in a timeout period? He's usually pretty quick with doing whatever he needs to do for locking a thread or if it needs to stay locked, he usually says so.

[Criptfeind]

It's not always super quick if it's not cut and dried in the past few posts. Sometimes he needs to comb though the whole previous conversation and such, which can take a while sometimes.

[smjjames]

It's not always super quick if it's not cut and dried in the past few posts. Sometimes he needs to comb though the whole previous conversation and such, which can take a while sometimes.

It was only the last 12 or so posts that it flared up, there wasn't anything flaring up earlier.

[Helgoland]

Christ, this one feels so unnecessary. Other times I got it: People were passionate, got riled up, etc etc. This time it just seemed to me like dickishness among posters.

[martinuzz]

I'm not quite sure what prompted the lockdown either. I guess the last 3 posts were turning a bit personal.

[smjjames]

Christ, this one feels so unnecessary. Other times I got it: People were passionate, got riled up, etc etc. This time it just seemed to me like dickishness among posters.

So, it wasn't you that locked it?

[Helgoland]

Hell no. I would've given the guys involved in the last couple pages some shit, sure, but why lock it? It wasn't exactly boiling over. I guess Toady is playing it extra careful with the AmeriPol thread: If it's permalocked, the topics will just infect the rest of the board. That's why it is important to keep the containment area stable.