Silverthrone, you seem to be implying that an Islamist 'assault' on Europe would come from without, like some kind of army at the gates, rather than from within.
Why would they need to do that when we're already inviting them in - 'Refugees Welcome!' - and their proportion of the population is rapidly increasing, to thunderous applause? See this video of German politician Dr. Steffi Van Berg say 'in 20 to 30 years, there will no longer be German majorities in our cities ... this is a good thing'.
I, personally, do not think that's a good thing. Given what we know about Islamic attitudes toward homosexuality even in developed countries, I think LGBT people in Germany should be very concerned about these demographic changes.
For all the talk of us 'inching the right way', I think the situation is more serious than the picture you are painting. And the fact that the media is still so afraid of reporting on these issues makes me have serious doubts about any perceived 'inching' being real at all.
That scenario assumes that every single man, woman and child that are muslim are entirely devoted to the idea of an European Caliphate, and that the over-generous refuge standards that let them in will remain in place unchanged. Even if this hive-mind scenario, along with the borders-remain-wide-open-come-hell-or-high-water scenario, were entirely true, it'd still hinge on a minority toppling the armed nation-state they live in. It can happen. But it cannot happen next thursday afternoon. It'd also require great popular support for the maïve sentiment Dr. Van Berg is expressing, and that support is eroding.
It might not look like it, but there is a shift. The unhealthy relationship towards islamism and hands-off immigration is being challenged, but there are decades of old conventions that are being breached. It will take time, but there are no reason to believe that it will not accelerate, or to believe that it isn't actually real, due to the greater media hesitating to report on such things. Which is not entirely unreasonable of them, since those sorts of reports would get them absolutely thrashed and branded as incurable racists until relatively recently. It isn't out there en masse, being exciting and making memes, but things are changing. Slower than they should, but they are.
Also, I do not know if or how I gave the impression that I do think that it
is a good thing. I might have misinterpreted you, but in case I have. I believe islamism belongs in the same category as all other brutal, totalitarian ideologies that has no business being allowed to develop unmolested. Nor is it a good idea to just accept it when half the world wants to move in, and wants to run the new place as they like. Borders needs to be shut, uncompatible people needs to be sent back and movements suppressed. All are hard, difficult things, but they need to be done. However, I do not think there is reason to be hysterical, and think doom in Europe is assured, as punishment for going soft. Doom is only inevitable if we assume that everything will continue in the direction it does now, and I do not think it will, not with the widening cracks in the pseudo-ideology that cements it.
I will be honest, I simply do not like that tone. That I would be "implying" falsehoods to prop up current politics, applauding the demographical development along with Dr. Van Berg or that I would be lying about seeing a shift that is not there. I might be seeing implications and assumtions that are not there, but I do not appreciate being made into a charicature, chirping opinions that are not my own for you to shoot down. Just because I do not think that the forecast is quite as grim as it is often presented, then that does not mean that I think that all is well, and business can keep going as before.
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