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[Loud Whispers]

The UN is inefficient as fuck and foreign backed countries end up caught in crossfires for influence

What you need is strong independent countries free from corruption

[Orange Wizard]

Unless you plan to conjure a strong independent country out of thin air, you're probably going to need foreign support one way or the other.

[Sheb]

Do you? Maybe one of the lessons of developmental aid is that there is no real solution. We can alleviate the suffering, but we cannot make them rich, that's something that countries must do themselves.

What we could probably do is stop forcing free trade on everyone so that developing countries can create an industrial base behind tariffs, like every rich country did at some point.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

That would only serve to send 2 billion muslims who are now moderate and peaceful into a kafir killing frenzy that makes IS look like schoolgirls. Bad idea.

I would prefer to hear that nuking civilians is never an option. Because this is the real reason why this can't be done.

Besides I am relatively sure that there are no 2 billion Muslims in the world. There are people who identify themselves as such but thankfully there are far far less actual Muslims

[Orange Wizard]

What we could probably do is stop forcing free trade on everyone so that developing countries can create an industrial base behind tariffs, like every rich country did at some point.

Mercantilism doesn't guarantee a healthy government, they might turn out like the US

Besides I am relatively sure that there are no 2 billion Muslims in the world. There are people who identify themselves as such but thankfully there are far far less actual Muslims

Wut? Not everyone who calls themselves Muslim is Muslim, "thankfully"? Careful, you're starting to sound like an ISIS supporter.

[Sheb]

Protectionism doesn't guarantee an healthy government (indeed, it create a lot of pitfalls for governments to fall in as once you start favouring firms, you can start favouring your buddies). It doesn't even guarantee economic development ('How Asia Works' makes the point that protectionism to give your firm ressources, plus pressure to export to submit them to competition on the international market works best) to developed status. But apart from a handful of city-state, no country became rich without it.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Wut? Not everyone who calls themselves Muslim is Muslim, "thankfully"? Careful, you're starting to sound like an ISIS supporter.

I sound like a guy who thinks that totalitarian ideology like Islam should be banned in any civilized country

[Loud Whispers]

Unless you plan to conjure a strong independent country out of thin air, you're probably going to need foreign support one way or the other.

I don't OW, I'm saying it's not the job for white people to take control of African countries for their own good - the long line of American freedoming the middle east has left a track record of mistakes and broken states, nothing has changed since then. Strong independent countries are not conjured out of thin air, they are built over long periods of time, there is nothing magical about white guidance that will revolutionarily succeed where it has failed in the past.

[Cthulhu]

Wut? Not everyone who calls themselves Muslim is Muslim, "thankfully"? Careful, you're starting to sound like an ISIS supporter.

I sound like a guy who thinks that totalitarian ideology like Islam should be banned in any civilized country

Hey come on man, #NotAllMuslims.  Don't bring moderate Muslims into this.  See, look at this moderate Muslim student defending her faith against evil, uh, Bankers?  Globalists?

[Loud Whispers]

Hey come on man, #NotAllMuslims.  Don't bring moderate Muslims into this.  See, look at this moderate Muslim student defending her faith against evil, uh, Bankers?  Globalists?

Anti-banker = Anti-jew? Bit chilling when she leaned into the mic to say she was pro Holocaust II

Western students are just messed up af

[Sergarr]

There are plenty of reasonable Muslims in the world, the problem is that the amount of unreasonable ones is 1) much higher, and 2) they have an almost total control of many more countries (all pictures from this source):

Spoiler: sharia support among muslim (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: sharia to control non-muslim (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: stoning as punishment (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: death for leaving islam (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: opinion of laws that don't follow sharia (click to show/hide)

It's kind of a problem.

[Loud Whispers]

chiki briki

[MarcAFK]

They have in common that they were all bombed, invaded, and / or a regime change was forced upon them.

What they don't have in common is that none of them had completely artificial frontiers made up by Britain/France playing map painting, resulting in a bunch of people who utterly hate each other having to live together.

Actually all those countries did, OK with Mexico it was Spain not France.

[Teneb]

They have in common that they were all bombed, invaded, and / or a regime change was forced upon them.

What they don't have in common is that none of them had completely artificial frontiers made up by Britain/France playing map painting, resulting in a bunch of people who utterly hate each other having to live together.

Actually all those countries did, OK with Mexico it was Spain not France.

Uh, no? The vice-kingdoms split more along cultural lines than anything else. Otherwise there'd only be about 4 spanish-speaking nations in South America right now.

[martinuzz]

The religious council of Saudi Arabia made a TV statement in response to the Nice attacks.
They said "islam approves of the sanctitiy of human life and forbids terrorism that kills, and brings fear to peaceful people in their houses, their markets or their work".
They be becoming more vocal ever since IS attacked Medina