She became an independent country?
Oh god the "my body is a dictatorship" pastas
To avenge Sikh/German bombing Syria? To kill moderate muslims sikh leaders? Because Sikh represent Israel?
1. No
2. Sikhs aren't Muslims
3. No
Basically Sikhs are kuffars
Because Sikhs are just as infidel as Christians
They're double infidels, at least Christians are people of the book and they're still genocided
Yeah, and in their theology, infidels aren't something to be massacred, but to be dominated. Unless they fight back, in which case you can massacre them ofc. If their were teens, I guess you can't expect them to be even moderately coherent though.
You've got the wrong theology for the wrong sect
The thing is, there's a lot of verses in the Qu'ran talking about peace and love for ones neighbor and etc. There's also quite a few talking about when waging holy war on someone is acceptable, usually in defense of Islam, emphasis there on defense. When foreigners try to take over, basically, and make what what was an Islamic state into a non-Islamic state.
Heh, the birthplace of Christianity is Islamic land. Caliph Abu Bakr in order to stop the early Muslim community from fracturing upon the death of Muhammed (as many tribal leaders declared themselves successor to the prophet) himself declared that since there is only one God, there is only one community. Secession and apostasy was declared treason. This was supposed to be a short term solution but changed Islam to be a sociopolitical force that has conquered people from one end of the Atlantic to the Pacific. Caliph Abu Bakr's general crushed the rebels and once more reunified the Muslim community. The Byzantines and Sassanid were taking advantage of this chaos, gearing up to remove their southern threat - invasion was inevitable in the long term. So Caliph Abu Bakr decides to strike first. The Arabs being nomads and traders were well versed in their enemies' tactics and knew that they were exhausted from having warred with each other for so long. Caliph Abu Bakr gathered his advisers and prepared for a campaign against the Byzantines and Sassanids, who although weakened, were still the two greatest military powers of their time.
Unfortunately Caliph Abu Bakr grows ill and knows he is soon to pass away, so he announces he wishes to appoint Umar as his successor. Umar was a large imposing military commander who the council feared was not the right man for the job so to say, as his fearsome imposition could present the wrong image. Then Ali endorsed him and all was well, Umar became Caliph Umar. As soon as he took office, he took to the military campaign.
Caliph Umar took the notion of the Ummah being the one good community and expanded it - anything outside the Ummah was immoral, chaotic and evil, for it did not live up to the laws of God. And so the world becomes divided into two realms, the Dar-al Islam and the Dar-al Harb, the Realm of Submission to God and peace and the Realm of War respectively. The Dar-al Harb were infidels, and were justified in declaring Jihad against them. This is the first Jihad not as say, an inner struggle. This is the first Jihad with a military dimension used in order to justify an invasion into foreign lands, in this case the Byzantine southern Meditteranean lands, Levantine lands and the Persian Mesopotamian lands and most significantly of all - the Sassanid lands beyond the Persian mountains. The moral issue of foreign conquest was no longer a concern, with the purpose of spreading God's truth the military Jihad was a noble act and all soldiers were committed to the campaign. The impact of this precedent remains to this day, made only further so after the assassination of Uthman and the partisans of Ali left and formed the Khawarjites, redefining sinners as being infidels, allowing the definition of Jihad to be applicable even to the Muslim world (whereupon they would do things like attack marketplaces full of merchants with hidden daggers).
The Khawarjites were sorta dickheads like that
Anyways people of the book you can subjugate as long as you consider the whole people of the book thing valid and do not hold them as kuffar; that's more in line with something like "pay your Dhimmi tax and do whatever it is you want to do." Its modern incarnation is probably Saudi style tolerance where you can do what you want to do as long as you don't try spread your faith, as apostasy is punishable by death. I bring up Saudi Arabia because it's notable that they haven't been known to have executed anyone for it in recent times, but they will still expel you and punish you in some other non-capital way because they don't want that shit. Also in Shariah courts (even in today's nations with Shariah law) for example, in a settlement a Muslim will get full settlement, people of the book (Jews or Christians) get half and others get a sixteenth - Sikhs being under others. Salafists specifically hold that Sunni Islam is true Islam, but that their Sunni Islam is the true Sunni Islam. This wouldn't really be much of an issue but they also hold the belief that non-Muslims and Shiites (for they are both kuffar) must be removed with physical jihad to make way for Dar-al Islam.
Anyway, I'm just surprised, because Sikh aren't their main target, so I was wondering if there was something to know about this.
Sikhs are in their main target, their main target is just a very big one that happens to include most of the world. Their physical jihad is given priority based off of political concerns as much as religious ones so that may give the impression that they hate x group more than y but it's mostly a case of ability and opportunity.
I'd find it more likely that the Sikh temple would be bombed by right-wing extremists than by salafists. Sikh are often mistaken for muslims, just because they wear turbans, and have been the victim of anti-muslim attacks before.
Which is stupid because Muslim religious gear is not turbans as well. Numpty Murricans, hearts in the right place, passions in firearms, brains in poor judgement - argleblargle! It is painful when people do such great evil under the impression of great good. Hey, relevant to Salafism :
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In Yurop right-wing terrorism is more to do with setting refugee housing centres on fire or a few years ago murdering leftists/politicians (street wars in Greece is very ostensible). If you've been keeping up with the riots in Germany between refugee Sunnis and apostates, Sunnis and Shiites and the recent segregation of Christians and Sunni refugees by the police it's not surprising that the Sikhs would get pulled into this some day, especially given their bloody history
Sure. What is that history? Because I'm not aware of it. (And I'm not tryng to be snarky. I've just not seen Sikh being attacked by Islamists in the west yet (where Sikh are a tiny minority and there are plenty of other, more likely target, so I'm trying to understand the context here).
Sikhism was born in the Punjab region of India which was on the frontier of the various Islamic invasions that rekt the Hindus and then rekt them again and again from time to time (much in the same manner that the reconquest of Zoroastrian Persia was bloodier than the actual conquest of Persia). Sikhism was born in this environment but was pretty chill most of the time, saying everyone be equal be they man or woman, WAHE GURU! This sort of populism allowed Sikhism to grow rapidly through Punjab because the Hindu caste system and the Islamic treatment of Polytheists was making some people quite depressed and Sikhism let you walk around with twin swords, and this is scientifically proven to make you happier (well, they didn't actually carry swords for religious reasons at that time. That comes with Guru Hargobind).
Around this time the Mughal Empire was conquering India. The Mughal Empire inherited the legacy of the Mongol Empire and the Timurids, and this included the Mongol traditions towards religion and conquest - meaning that after your bloody conquest, once you got off your saddle you'd actually be quite tolerant of other religions and so besides the bloodshed from conquest (which ended rather quickly thanks to shrewd diplomacy, alliances with Hindu nobles, administrative genius and the usage of firearms, artillery and European trade contacts/weapons), Mughal India was pretty relaxed and Hindu, Sikh and Muslim got along relatively ok.
That is until the Mughal throne fell to Emperor Jahangir, who when it came to religious tolerance was actually tolerant as fuck. His court was full of Shiites, Sunnis, Jesuits, Hindus, and he probably would've grabbed some Jews if he had any, he even let religious debates happen between everyone without any bloodshed (even warning his Muslim nobles not to start shit by trying forced conversions). A pretty chill guy who was addicted to opium, alcohol and women - he was haram as fuck; yet there was one religion to whom he would not show mercy - the Sikhs.
Guru Arjan, the fifth Guru was the Guru who first codified the Sikh religion into its own first religious canon (that was independent of any other faith), included texts from other religions - including Sunni Islam and Hinduism. Emperor Jahangir noticed this and wanted to make some changes to the Sikh canon (remove all references to Hinduism and Islam) and wanted Guru Arjan to convert to Islam so when Guru Arjan said no pls, Emperor Jahangir
sent him on his way with tea and biscuits tortured him to death by pouring hot sand all over him for five days, at which point he walked into a river never to be seen again.
The next Guru was Guru Arjan's son, Guru Hargobind. Guru Hargobind thought it was pretty shit that his father got tortured to death so he thought, hey everyone should have swords, one to symbolize the spiritual discipline of Sikhism and the other to
fuck your shit up if you start shit. This starts the birth of the Sikh saint-soldier and lays the foundation of the Sikh Empire.
After Emperor Jahangir the World-Conqueror (fuck that's a great epithet) died of a cold, the throne passed to Emperor Jahan. Interestingly there was some courtly intrigue that essentially fucked over the religiously tolerant eldest son who wanted syncretic Hinduslamism, whilst Emperor Jahan was to turn out to be in terms of religious tolerance akin to a champion of Khorne. Eventually the Mughal Empire got so fucked up from sectarian fighting, court spending, the Emperors killing each other in an orgy of CKII violent intrigue and the Maratha Empire's attacks that it all began to fall apart.
The zenith of "oh shit what are you doing" happened under Emperor Aurangzeb who managed to make the Mughal Empire the richest and most powerful Empire in the world - but simultaneously doomed it to destruction. Emperor Aurangzeb conquered his way through India to reach the Mughal Empire's largest extent, but abandoned the Mughal plurality of religions in favour of sharia law. Buddhists, Hindus, Sufi and Shiite Muslims, Sikhs and Jesuits became kuffar. Religious leaders were executed (including the ninth Sikh guru), taxes were laid on the infidel, Christians enslaved, Hindu temples demolished and mosques built in their place, and in accordance with shariah made alcoholism, gambling, castration, music, opiates, blasphemy, apostasy and all that illegal. Also did some other shit like destroy Dharmic schools. In short - went full retard, ruling over a very large Empire of people who hated the Mughals.
The resulting endless series of civil wars managed to turn the richest state and most powerful state in the world into an Empire of eternal decline.
The during all this the Sikhs sought to overthrow the increasingly violent and tyrannical Mughals by building their own Empire. So they did. Thus Guru Gobind Singh (the final Guru and successor to the one that just got executed) put their martial discipline to martial practice and joined all the wars against and within the Mughal Empire, to carve out the Sikh Empire.
Then during and after that the East India Company was invited into the Mughal remnant's lands to protect them (unable to defeat the aggressive and talented Marathan army). After the Marathan army began to age poorly (its experience being lost on new recruits whilst the EIC's army only got more professional) eventually the Marathan Empire was defeated and I can only assume at some point the Mughals asked when the EIC would be leaving, presumably met with diplomatic-speak for "This guy thinks we're leaving lel."
After a while the Sikh Empire began to weaken and the Sikhs began taking up arms and engaged in a perpetual state of uneasy rebellion against the Sikh court, continuing to increase the already large military - at which point the British were all spooked out by a powerful military with no government to restrain them and thought "oh shit man what do we do". So the EIC began military buildup with the Sikhs, and so began two militaries building up against one another each thinking the other is about to start shit.
Thus began the Anglo-Sikh wars, at which point the Sikhs came up with the brilliant strategy of "if we kill so many of them, they may get demoralized and quit." And so they did. The British army nearly faced complete annihilation (saint-soldiers yo) in a way that has probably never been closer to reality than outside of the
world wars. Eventually the British got the upper hand and the Sikh army refused to surrender, meaning when they lost the army was effectively broken (the army refused to surrender when faced with
total annihilation) and the Empire was gradually absorbed into British India (with one more war).
From then on things calmed down a bit, with all the religions growing with the EIC pursuing a policy of "do whatever, just give us your textiles" and then the British Raj pursued religious neutrality (after concluding the Indian religions were too adherent to custom and tradition to change them with enlightened fedora values lel) leaving relative peace. Relative, because tensions were building up big - tension reached the all-time high when plans for Indian independence were beginning to be drawn up. Religious riots and killings started to begin, and the British Raj concluded "we can deal with this if the Indian army is with us... If they are." After the loss of Malaya though the Brits felt nah we can't do this, this is too big to handle. So they started drawing up plans for independence with the nationalist leaders, Muslim leaders, Sikh leaders, untouchable leaders and so on whilst Gandhi was probably crying in anguish as his pluralist dream began to decay.
The Muslim areas were partitioned into East and West Pakistan (with Punjab within West Pakistan being designated as Sikh provinces) and Hindu India. All this tension finally found a fault line to release all this religious tension, specifically on the political lines partitioned as all the religious people caught on the borders were caught in brutal religious violence that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives as Sikhs on the borders flocked to Punjab, Hindus to India and Muslims to West Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Emphasis on
hundreds of thousands died and everyone had a horrible time.Nowadays the British Raj's ideological legacy of unity has helped temper religious violence, but along the borders still the violence is occasionally sore and Islamists and Hindu nationalists (even now Buddhist nationalists are joining the fray) flares up from time to time with killings, revenge killings, mob killings, honour killings and so on.
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