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[Baffler]

It's happening!

These guys have always done better in Iceland than anywhere else, but I wonder what they'll do now that they've suddenly been catapulted out of irrelevance.

[redwallzyl]

It's happening!

These guys have always done better in Iceland than anywhere else, but I wonder what they'll do now that they've suddenly been catapulted out of irrelevance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIs0S77RLk8
warning lots of flashing colors

[martinuzz]

In before the USA invades Iceland to protect Hollywood video rights.

[Antioch]

Why is that referendum even "valid" after 30%?

It's a advisory referendum, it doesn't "do" anything after becoming valid.

The only ACTUAL outcome is that most people didn't give a shit.

[martinuzz]

Democracy sure feels not great when it gives out results that you don't want, eh?

I don't see what a referendum where the uninformed are allowed to vote on a single topic has to do with democracy. Referenda like that are more a tool of anarchists, leading to contradiction and disrupting the functioning of a democraticalluy elected government.

[Morrigi]

It's the very definition of "direct democracy". It's still not necessarily a good idea, but it's ridiculous to claim that it isn't democracy.

[Antioch]

It's the very definition of "direct democracy". It's still not necessarily a good idea, but it's ridiculous to claim that it isn't democracy.

The actual result is that 68% of people thought it was a stupid referendum and decided not to vote.


Also if 6% of "yes" voters had decided NOT to vote, then the referendum would have suddenly been invalid.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I still that this referendum is a good thing because it attracts more attention to Ukraine. Delaying some stuff from the association is not critical.

[Sheb]

I'm willing to bet there is Russia support involved in this stuff.

[Sergarr]

It's the very definition of "direct democracy". It's still not necessarily a good idea, but it's ridiculous to claim that it isn't democracy.

The actual result is that 68% of people thought it was a stupid referendum and decided not to vote.


Also if 6% of "yes" voters had decided NOT to vote, then the referendum would have suddenly been invalid.

About the "low voted turnout". Let's look at the most democratic country in the world, an undisputed #1 country in societal, technological, and economical progress:

Oh hey, it looks like their midterm turnout is only about 10% higher than of this referendum! And you know what, the Americans consider that enough to make the results of said elections completely valid AND binding.

In general, it seems that people only agree with democracy when it gives out results that they want. If it doesn't, suddenly people start inventing all kinds of excuses as to why "this time doesn't count", like "it may have been different if more people voted" or "it wouldn't count if less people voted".

Well tough luck, this is how democracy works. You have to vote in order to make it count. Otherwise it wouldn't be democracy, now would it? I've seen so many people from USA saying that you must vote, even if you don't think it will change anything, or if you think it's pointless - because if enough people think that way, then stuff like this referendum happens.

[Antioch]

No in this case not voting would clearly have been the superior choice, since that would have invalidated the referendum.

[Helgoland]

most democratic country in the world

[citation needed]

[Kot]

an undisputed #1 country in societal, technological, and economical progress

*Incessant cackling*

[scriver]

He's talking about Switzerland, right?

[Kot]

USA

*Incessant cackling*