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[Antioch]

EDIT: See, I don't think this will help either.

Die Liebe der Türken und Deutschen zueinander ist so alt, daß sie niemals zerbrechen wird.

It happened in response to a terrorist attack in Turkey which killed several Germans. Germany has lots of Turkish folks, and an established Turkish community. Lots of Germans go on holiday in Turkey. The relationship between Germany and Turkey is deep, complex, and your statement does not appear to take that into account at all.

People will not see the crescent moon as a symbol of solidarity with Turkey at all. They will see it as an an Islamic symbol and it will reinforce their fears about Islamic influences on Germany.

That has nothing to do with my position, I am just sure a lot of people will interpret it that way.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Personally I think that letting unlimited refugees into Europe was a very bad idea. The social unrest and political shifts it has caused are very real. The portion of the refugees that will not be able to properly integrate WILL form a new lower class with all the associated problems. Racist (for lack of a better word) ideas will be on the rise on both sides, making everything a pain in the ass.

Just curious

What is your alternative to letting refugee in? Machineguns at EU borders? Playing deportation game again and again (BTW, deport where?)? Build death camps for the ultimate solution?

[Sheb]

Invade Syria to stop the civil war?

[sprinkled chariot]

Invade Syria to stop the civil war?

To make even bigger war?

[Sheb]

It's hard to imagine it being much worse though.

[martinuzz]

Send enough financial aid, food, medicine and civilian duty military manpower to Turkey / Lebanon / Jordan to actually make sheltering refugees there, in an orderly, and humane way logistically feasible. Treat it like a global disaster like the Himalaya earthquake or the Haïti typhoon, and get the aid caravan circus going.Then hire Australian coastguard to patrol the Mediterrenean, and Canadian Rangers to patrol the Turkish border. Doesn't matter if it costs 50 billion. Still cheaper than what the chaotic and uncontrolled mass influx of refugees we face now costs, and will cost, or the cost of saving one or two 'too big to fail' banks.

And indeed, what Sheb says, paramount to that, stop the fighting in Syria. Preferable by UN peacekeeping force (let's just get rid of that veto right thing, it is sooo last century).

[Sheb]

I'm not so sure about the "Still cheaper than what the chaotic and uncontrolled mass influx of refugees" part though. Refugees working in our economies and supporting themselves are cheaper than refugees needing all their support in refugees camp.

A lot of it depends on how long the Syrian war lasts though.

[martinuzz]

I'm not so sure about the "Still cheaper than what the chaotic and uncontrolled mass influx of refugees" part though. Refugees working in our economies and supporting themselves are cheaper than refugees needing all their support in refugees camp.

A lot of it depends on how long the Syrian war lasts though.

You are assuming that there are enough jobs. Sure, job economy seems to be rising again, but there still is a (relatively) high unemployment level.
You can't just create a million or more jobs out of thin air per year. Especially not once Volkswagen goes bankrupt over all the fines </sarcasm>

[sprinkled chariot]

isis jumping out of syria and focusing on starting same shit in nearby countries can probably make more syrias, huh.

[Loud Whispers]

I'm not so sure about the "Still cheaper than what the chaotic and uncontrolled mass influx of refugees" part though. Refugees working in our economies and supporting themselves are cheaper than refugees needing all their support in refugees camp.

A lot of it depends on how long the Syrian war lasts though.

Well Germany spending 17 billion euros helping less than the UK spending 1 billion sterling would suggest otherwise m8y, supporting refugees with aid is cheaper than crippling your own country trying to house the world's unskilled immigrants, without even bothering to go into issues of integration, displacement, assimilation, infrastructure or crime

isis jumping out of syria and focusing on starting same shit in nearby countries can probably make more syrias, huh.

Sneaky plot by Assad to take clay from everyone to make everyone syrian

What is your alternative to letting refugee in? Machineguns at EU borders? Playing deportation game again and again (BTW, deport where?)? Build death camps for the ultimate solution?

Just reinstate the old border control except for Germany, then build a tunnel that connects the Cape to Cairo road straight to Frankfurt, deport back to their home country or Germany
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BUT LOL LETS MAKE DEATH CAMPS OH FUG MERKELFURHER REMOVE SHOGGOTH XDDDDDDDD

People will not see the crescent moon as a symbol of solidarity with Turkey at all. They will see it as an an Islamic symbol and it will reinforce their fears about Islamic influences on Germany.
That has nothing to do with my position, I am just sure a lot of people will interpret it that way.

Well it's both, same way St. George's cross is England's flag or St. Peter's cross is every edgy kid's flag

[martinuzz]

Sorry couldn't help myself.
My mspaint skills suck.

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Ohsi- the smoke is on the wrong side. Beetles have the engine in the back iirc

[Loud Whispers]

10/19

[Helgoland]

Also it's 'Scheiße', not 'Scheiss'. The latter would be right in a context like 'Was für'n Scheiß', and even there the double-s spelling is Swiss, not German.

[martinuzz]

Also it's 'Scheiße', not 'Scheiss'. The latter would be right in a context like 'Was für'n Scheiß', and even there the double-s spelling is Swiss, not German.

okay okay I'll look up the extended ascii code for it. There we go. Alt-225 And yes I know, it's Scheiße, but isn't it Scheiß in a a lot of spoken dialect, more specifically, Ossi dialect? I could be wrong, Abitur is over 20 years ago now, my memory may fail me.

[nullBolt]

One of the women who were sexually harassed in Cologne went on the news to talk about it. The video got shared saying she was lying racist whore and the like. It hit 250,000 views before she told the guy who'd put it up that she'd sue for character assassination if they didn't remove it.

Worst part is the only place I found out about it was from Breitbart.