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[TD1]

Ia! Ia! Bercow!

[Loud Whispers]

Ia! Ia! Bercow!

And so the cult which never died did so cry, order! order!

[hector13]

The one time I heard him say it he very much put the emphasis on the second symbol, as though he were demanding a small snack from the MPs.

[askovdk]

Ia! Ia! Bercow!

And so the cult which never died did so cry, order! order!

As much as I support Bercow's blocking of the ‘let parliament have another vote on the same proposal’-circus, then this should logically seal a no-deal Brexit. 

The EU (rightly) stands firm on that the deal on the table is the negotiated deal, and now it will (rightly) not be possible to get it through the UK parliament.
The door is now locked behind May, who has stumbled into a dead-end.

Interesting that this ‘technicality’ in one stroke forces any initiative back on EU, - but who can maintain that this is the only deal, - which will now never be voted on in parliament.
I wonder what this means for any extension, - why extend the period if it’s now a technical (as well as a political) dead-lock.

[TD1]

Some people don't mind no deal as much as others. At least not as bad as Bad Deal.

To get it voted on the substance of the proposal will need to change, though. So they will need to change Something about it. Perhaps amend the backstop which deals, IMO, with a side issue.

Any extension now assumes the EU's willingness to negotiate, as you rightly imply. Here's to hoping they don't so our government has even less time to stab us in the back.

Roll on the 29th.

P.S. the BBC article on Bercow was quite amusing. So much bile for one man.

[askovdk]

Unfortunately, Bercow is now also a darn convenient person to place the blame for a hard Brexit upon.
Any spineless politician on both sides of the Channel can claim that: ‘We could have fixed it, - but now it’s impossible.’
Everyone involved (including Bercow who is only doing his job) can leave somewhat spotless, as <drumroll> is was inevitable.


And yes, I've also reached the point where I prefer a hard Brexit compared to the current mess.
It would have been better with a deal (good or bad, - I support the EU stance that 'this IS the deal that was negotiated'), but it's time to move on.

P.S. the BBC article on Bercow was quite amusing. So much bile for one man.

Link please! 

[scourge728]

Is there anything stopping them from just extending it indefinitely?

[hector13]

The unanimous agreement of 27 other countries :p

In an entirely unexpected twist, May presses on regardless, among other discourse over how to get round Bercow’s ruling.

[Loud Whispers]

Is there anything stopping them from just extending it indefinitely?

Politics, but politics also permits it. So politics as usual

As much as I support Bercow's blocking of the ‘let parliament have another vote on the same proposal’-circus, then this should logically seal a no-deal Brexit. 

Bercow swings the sword; May read the verdict, Cameron passed the sentence.

Unfortunately, Bercow is now also a darn convenient person to place the blame for a hard Brexit upon.

May has less power and credibility than Bercow, I think he need not fear accusations from a PM who won't last 20 seconds in a proper general election

Some people don't mind no deal as much as others. At least not as bad as Bad Deal.

Of all the Britons I've polled in China, they'd all supported Remain but are so tired of the neverending process that they're now in favour of no-deal Brexit just to get on with it, arguing the uncertainty May has inflicted has done more damage in the short term than no-deal Brexit ever could've. Then you've got folk like me who wanted no-deal Brexit from day one as it was the cleanest Brexit possible. I'm not happy though, because for all the people promising no deal Brexit, I won't celebrate until it happens

[TD1]

No, Bercow need not fear too much for his position.

What he needs to worry about is his block being circumnavigated, as it seems depressingly likely it will be. Any headlines concerning Bercow claim he's a threat to Brexit or somesuch; it's quite ridiculous, and I wonder how many people actually subscribe to that opinion.

May is determined to push through her deal (one which is worse than Remaining and worse than Leaving) no matter that it was voted down twice. The only tactic she has left is to hold hostage Brexit itself. Project Fear is now tangible to all.

[Loud Whispers]

Bit depressing if Bercow goes down for killing Brexit whilst in the act of saving it lmao

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The solution is very obvious, really. Unilaterally exile Northern Ireland from the UK, enact Devo Max for the remaining countries, establish a Cornish parliament, and allow Liz to consume the populace of London body and soul that she might shine with burning light from the ruins of Buckingham Palace for ten thousand years. Oh, and repeal the bedroom tax.

[Kagus]

So, what happens after Brexit, though? Will the various nationalities of Britain find a new hope for sovereignty and submit their official secession from the United Kingdom?

I mean, I feel like Scotleft has some promise, but Walesolong and Ireallyhavetobegoingnow seem like ill-fated prospects.

[scourge728]

I mean, ireland has a very nice republic it could join

[TD1]

Assuming Ireland wants NI, and NI wants Ireland.

Neither of which is the case.