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[Enemy post]

Both DUP and European Research Group (conservative hard-Brexiters) have pledged their support for May tomorrow. So there can be confidence after all.

But what if the Tories get confused and vote themselves out?

[misko27]

Spoiler: But on a scale from "It's over" to "It hasn't even begun", how much is it currently Happening? (click to show/hide)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

They've been wildly fluctuating between "You Asked For This" and "It's Too Late" ever since the referendum passed.

[Loud Whispers]

We are not yet on the scale, if we were, it would be too late

[scriver]

Well, for the record, I don't like that there are only two parties in the US, functionally, but I do think that in ,any ways the dynamics are healthier than Europe. It's noteworthy that in Spain, for instance, the ones proposing adopting the US system of open primaries are on the left of the political spectrum

How would "open primaries" work in the Spanish system? Do Spain not have a personal vote/naming system? For example, if I want to make sure a certain person gets into the Realmsday, I just write their name on my vote. If they get enough votes, the party has to seat him. Do Spain not have something equivalent or similar?

[Loud Whispers]

Theresa May loses historic commons vote again

StRONg AnD StaBLE

*EDIT
Hmmmmmm my local MP supported Remain but voted to kill the deal, seems Labour is rallying around Corby

[smjjames]

Not sure why you're repeating yesterdays news, but anyways... The no-confidence vote is supposed to be soon. They're saying that she is expected to survive the no-confidence vote, but still....

[Loud Whispers]

corby's doin the gov shuffle

[ChairmanPoo]

The SNP’s Pete Wishart asks what will Labour’s Brexit policy be if there is an election: will it be for Brexit or against?
Corbyn says Labour is a democratic party. The party will decide

Seriously? His Brexit policy is not having a policy?

[smjjames]

I think he meant he'd defer to his party on deciding what to do? Though in the article LW linked above, a Labor MP says that 'an overwhelming majority' want a second referendum.

[Dorsidwarf]

The SNP’s Pete Wishart asks what will Labour’s Brexit policy be if there is an election: will it be for Brexit or against?
Corbyn says Labour is a democratic party. The party will decide

Seriously? His Brexit policy is not having a policy?

He's pro-brexit but is about to do a no-confidence vote on a very small margin and cant afford to alienate any anti-brexit labour members is what I take from that.

[Loud Whispers]

The SNP’s Pete Wishart asks what will Labour’s Brexit policy be if there is an election: will it be for Brexit or against?
Corbyn says Labour is a democratic party. The party will decide

Seriously? His Brexit policy is not having a policy?

There's ambiguity in referring to the 'party,' whether he'll defer to Labour party members (their public support), Labour union members or Labour MPs, and if Labour MPs which Labour MPs

[ChairmanPoo]

It's political cowardice.... something you see a lot with populists of all stripes. In this particular case: since he doesn't want to say he is either in favor or against brexit or a second ref, he plays the "I'll put it up to a vote" card. Which
- is the opposite of leadership
- can be easily manipulated by deputizing whichever group you think is likely to say they want what you want... whichever that is.


In Spain Pablo Iglesias does this a lot. To ridiculous extremes.

[smjjames]

I wonder if some Sinn Fein members wish they had a voice in this proccess because they really could have helped shape the whole thing given that it's the DUP that want the hard border, but Sinn Fein doesn't.

[ChairmanPoo]

  .... somehow I don't think they'll drop their decades-old policy to help out the British goverment