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[Criptfeind]

Don't know where the gallows thing comes from, it's something I've only found appear in the Hill and Washington Post, now why these Washington based news agencies have information that no one in Britain has, is probably just a lil bit of embellishment: They want to sell clicks, they want to make it seem like our Mayor was gonna be assassinated.

The gallows is from the groups own facebook video of the event. It's clearly not... Like, an actual working gallows that you could actually hang someone from. But they do bring a gallows and they do say that it "awaits anyone who breaks their oath of office"

I guess this is where I question the BBCs motive for not mentioning the gallows then? Probably because they want less clicks, to spread the clicks to the poor click impoverished news stations of the world.

[Magistrum]

Wow... I thought it was just America, but England seems to be jumping off the cliff too... Well, there is a special relationship after all.

[smjjames]

Don't know where the gallows thing comes from, it's something I've only found appear in the Hill and Washington Post, now why these Washington based news agencies have information that no one in Britain has, is probably just a lil bit of embellishment: They want to sell clicks, they want to make it seem like our Mayor was gonna be assassinated.

The gallows is from the groups own facebook video of the event. It's clearly not... Like, an actual working gallows that you could actually hang someone from. But they do bring a gallows and they do say that it "awaits anyone who breaks their oath of office"

I guess this is where I question the BBCs motive for not mentioning the gallows then? Probably because they want less clicks, to spread the clicks to the poor click impoverished news stations of the world.

It certainly looks like it could be made functional, but what do I know. Still found it disturbing though.

[Criptfeind]

Well, I mean, I don't know anything about gallows either. Maybe my perspective is off, it looks to me like even if I got my head though the hole my feet would be able to touch the ground. But idk, it's hard to judge.

[Loud Whispers]

Wow... I thought it was just America, but England seems to be jumping off the cliff too... Well, there is a special relationship after all.

4 dudes =/= You guys electring Trump

The gallows is from the groups own facebook video of the event. It's clearly not... Like, an actual working gallows that you could actually hang someone from. But they do bring a gallows and they do say that it "awaits anyone who breaks their oath of office"
I guess this is where I question the BBCs motive for not mentioning the gallows then? Probably because they want less clicks, to spread the clicks to the poor click impoverished news stations of the world.

That actually is pretty suspish as to why the BBC would redact that info. Could be that the BBC is on orders to minimize the amount of attention this group gets, so as to reduce the effectiveness of their publicity stunt

[martinuzz]

Venezuela has been blockading trade with the Dutch islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao for about two weeks now, claiming drug trade is hurting Venezuelan economy. Analist suspect Chinese oil interests are behind it. Fruit and vegetables becoming scarce on the islands. Diplomacy has been unsuccesful so far. We might need to send our navy.

[smjjames]

Venezuela has been blockading trade with the Dutch islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao for about two weeks now, claiming drug trade is hurting Venezuelan economy. Analist suspect Chinese oil interests are behind it. Fruit and vegetables becoming scarce on the islands. Diplomacy has been unsuccesful so far. We might need to send our navy.

Is it a complete naval blockade or something? Not as if Venezuela is the only source of fruit and vegetables? I'm a bit confused as to the situation as it sounds like a military blockade but I don't think Venezuelas navy is that big.

You could always ask the US to show some muscle if neccesary, or something.

Also, I hadn't seen anything about Venezuela blockading trade on those islands on the BBC...

edit: Google news'd it and I see. Does Venezuela's maritine border completely envelop those three islands because I thought those islands would have their own maritine border which wouldn't stop aircraft and ships from coming through.

[Culise]

It does, or at least, it should; I doubt the Dominican Republic has joined in on this blockade.  Do you have any reference?  All I found is indications that Venezuela severed their own trade relations with the ABC islands, but if that were all, then their maritime border shouldn't matter at all.  Is the blockade being conducted in general and in violation of Dutch national waters? 

[martinuzz]

Nah, but if it continues, there will be severe food shortages on the islands. About 95% of it's cereals, fruit and vegetables are imported from Venezuela.

EDIT: ohwait, they are indeed actually blockading the airspace and naval terrirtorial waters of the islands.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/nog-geen-akkoord-na-overleg-venezuela-houdt-vast-aan-zee-en-luchtblokkade-abc-eilanden~a4556828/

[TD1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42688698

Barry McElduff has resigned. Wonder if it's got anything to do with the petition, which is thirty eight and a half thousand strong, demanding he step down. Hope so; would hate to think my vote was for naught.

[martinuzz]

As an extreme measure, the Netherlands has declared the most senior ranking Eritrean diplomat as persona non grata, and kicked him out of the country.
With this the Netherlands hopes to send a clear message that we will not accept the Eritrean ways of threatening and intimidating Eritreans living in the Netherlands into paying tax to Eritrea over their Dutch income.
Diplomats have already tried for months to try and convince Eritrea to stop doing that, but they have not complied, or even showed any understanding that we do not accept such behaviour.
The next step would be closing down the embassy altogether, but for now the government thinks that will be counterproductive.

[Doomblade187]

Does Eritrea double tax their citizen's income like the US or is it a different issue, them saying that their citizens shouldn't pay the Netherlands tax?

[martinuzz]

Double tax.

[Sheb]

As an extreme measure, the Netherlands has declared the most senior ranking Eritrean diplomat as persona non grata, and kicked him out of the country.
With this the Netherlands hopes to send a clear message that we will not accept the Eritrean ways of threatening and intimidating Eritreans living in the Netherlands into paying tax to Eritrea over their Dutch income.
Diplomats have already tried for months to try and convince Eritrea to stop doing that, but they have not complied, or even showed any understanding that we do not accept such behaviour.
The next step would be closing down the embassy altogether, but for now the government thinks that will be counterproductive.

How is it different from what the US do?

[martinuzz]

Because Eritrea doesn't have a tax agreement with the Netherlands that allows for reimbursement of double tax, I suppose. Or possibly avoid double taxation alltogether, not familiar with the specifics on the Dutch-US tax agreement, just know that our country's base policy is to negotiate treaties with no double taxation.
And because the US doesn't send shady men to intimidate and threaten Dutch citizens into paying, nor does it make them sign papers in which they promise to pay for their unspecified crimes.

From the official website of our tax office:

If you have income from different countries, tax is levied on that income by multiple countries. If you have capital in another country than that in which you reside, you will also be confronted with this issue. If tax is levied on the same income or capital by more than 1 country, this is called double taxation.
To avoid that you pay tax on your income or your capital more than once, the Netherlands has concluded tax treaties with a considerable number of countries. A tax treaty is an agreement between 2 countries about which of them has the right to levy tax on certain income. The contents of the treaties are not the same for every country. To know what the exact consequences are for your tax levy in the Netherlands, you must read that treaty.
If the Netherlands has not concluded a tax treaty with the country concerned, the 'Double Taxation (Avoidance) Decree (2001)' applies. Application of this Decree will also result in the avoidance of double taxation. For more information about the avoidance of double tax, please see the double tax relief.