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[martinuzz]

Transatlantic Semantic Battle. Sounds like a good name for a rap competition.

[da_nang]

There's still a loophole in the new agreement though; Employers get a 1 year leniency period (extendable to 18 months in special circumstances), in which they can still pay their 'temporary' workers minimum wage.

So... was it put there and nobody noticed, or was it intentional in the hope of getting it shot down or to fan up support back home?

I mean, what's the point if you can just fire and rehire every year?

[martinuzz]

It's to appease the Czech Republic, who demanded a 24 month leniency period, or they'd Czexit.

In many countries though, there are already laws in place that forbid firing and rehiring within a certain timeframe, so it's not an infinite loophole.
For example, over here, a company can only give someone a flex (temporary) contract for a maximum of (I believe it is) 2 years. After that, they have to offer a permanent contract, or fire. Also, if a temporary contract ends, there is a 6 month cooldown before the company can offer another temporary contract to the same employee.

That doesn't mean they can't fire one worker, and rehire another, although I believe there's legislation under construction to tackle that issue.

[smjjames]

How come they wanted a 24 month leniency period?

[martinuzz]

So they can keep sending cheap workers to work for 2 years (and send money back home). It's not a leniency until the new agreement is enacted, it's a leniency forever enshrined in the agreement.

There also is a 4 or 5 year transition period before the new agreement is enacted 

[Pwnzerfaust]

In Austria, meanwhile, there has been "a rise in share of [the] foreign-born population over the last 10 years," Rohac said. "Austrians will tell you they sort of fear becoming a minority in their own country, which is sort of silly. But the pace of change has been dramatic. … The hysteria over immigration is really unprecedented in this part of the world."

Ayy lmao stop being hysterical why we replace you

Spoiler: inb4 why won't they vote for us (click to show/hide)

This makes me sick to my stomach. If some other part of the world was being replaced by whites (for example, if South Africa had a higher growth rate among whites than blacks) people would be screaming racism and genocide.

Also, I'm surprised at the lack of discussion regarding the Austrian election.

[Sheb]

In Austria, meanwhile, there has been "a rise in share of [the] foreign-born population over the last 10 years," Rohac said. "Austrians will tell you they sort of fear becoming a minority in their own country, which is sort of silly. But the pace of change has been dramatic. … The hysteria over immigration is really unprecedented in this part of the world."

Ayy lmao stop being hysterical why we replace you

Spoiler: inb4 why won't they vote for us (click to show/hide)

This makes me sick to my stomach. If some other part of the world was being replaced by whites (for example, if South Africa had a higher growth rate among whites than blacks) people would be screaming racism and genocide.

I seriously dispute that, especially if it was just due to demographic reason (aka, no discrimination against an ethnic group, no one being killed). Hell, people don't even call it genocide in Tibet, where you have clear discriminationa gainst Tibetans.

[smjjames]

In Austria, meanwhile, there has been "a rise in share of [the] foreign-born population over the last 10 years," Rohac said. "Austrians will tell you they sort of fear becoming a minority in their own country, which is sort of silly. But the pace of change has been dramatic. … The hysteria over immigration is really unprecedented in this part of the world."

Ayy lmao stop being hysterical why we replace you

Spoiler: inb4 why won't they vote for us (click to show/hide)

This makes me sick to my stomach. If some other part of the world was being replaced by whites (for example, if South Africa had a higher growth rate among whites than blacks) people would be screaming racism and genocide.

Also, I'm surprised at the lack of discussion regarding the Austrian election.

Sounds like the UN trying to push an agenda. Also, replace Austria in that quote with America/Americans and you have the same sort of fear of becoming a demographic minority among some.

Also, genocide has a very specific definition. Seems more a fear of 'cultural genocide' rather than 'ethnic genocide' because people are just scared of change.

[RedKing]

Meh. I just picture a German seeing one too many Doner kebab stands and screaming that they're being genocided.
Delicious, juicy genocide.

And as smjjames said, there's a lot of whitey angst over here about the "browning" of America.

I'm sure the Celts said the same thing about the Romans. Then the Romano-Celts said the same thing about these fucking Saxons. And then the Saxons said it about the Normans. And now their 25xgreat-grand kids are saying it about people from, y'know, all those places they conquered.

Cultures change. It's what they do.

[Pwnzerfaust]

Fatalism helps no one.

[scriver]

I'm sure the Native Americans said the same about Europeans too.

[RedKing]

I'm not sure how that's fatalistic, unless you abhor the thought of change.

About the only extant culture which even existed more than 1000 years ago are the Chinese, and even there Han culture has undergone enormous change and imported ideas (and DNA) from numerous outside populations.

@scriver: Uh...think that's a misquote.

[smjjames]

About the only extant culture which even existed more than 1000 years ago are the Chinese, and even there Han culture has undergone enormous change and imported ideas (and DNA) from numerous outside populations.

*most of Africa screams for correction, as do just about every indengenous tribe, even if they may not have been in the area they currently are for the last 1000 years*

Japanese as well, and you might say the Hindu culture. Those are just the ones which remained in one area and remained dominant over a large region.

[Pwnzerfaust]

I'm not sure how that's fatalistic, unless you abhor the thought of change.

Some change is better than others. Change for change's sake is dangerous.

[smjjames]

If they're so afraid of losing culture, then they should promote culture, like "It's awesome to be <insert country name>!", it's called cultural acclimation and absorption. It's what the Romans did, except they did it more forcefully and partially through the awe of civilization.