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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4860 on: February 16, 2017, 12:00:57 pm »

Stupidity and out-of-touch judges are at it again in Sweden.

*sigh* ::)

They tried that for a while here in the Netherlands, but it was overruled by a judge who realized it was idiotic.

And it takes a whooping 5 seconds to google for a proxy.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4861 on: February 17, 2017, 06:28:40 am »

So, the EU parliament has set out some goals for what direction they think the EU should take.

Parliament sets out its vision for the future of Europe
 
If the EU is to boost its capacity to act, restore citizens’ trust and make the euro zone economy more resilient to outside shocks, it needs to make full use of the Lisbon Treaty. But to go further, it needs to reform itself more fundamentally. This was the key message of three resolutions exploring the future development of the European Union approved by Parliament on Thursday.
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So, empty words, or a promising resolution? Whether these things can be achieved, even if it's the latter, remains to be seen, given how the members haven't been jumping at the bit to give more power to the EU.

As bad as the whole Brexit debacle might be, perhaps it was a necessary sacrifice to allow (some of) these proposals to have any chance of seeing the light of day.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4862 on: February 17, 2017, 06:36:41 am »

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The EU doesn't need to be protected from "outside shock" as much as it needs to be protected from German greed.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4863 on: February 17, 2017, 07:58:08 am »

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The EU doesn't need to be protected from "outside shock" as much as it needs to be protected from German greed.

Interestingly that migh very well be an argument for beefed up EU institutions, with the UK gone the German government became even more powerful as a proportion, delegating power to EU isntitutions is a way to avoid German hegemony.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4864 on: February 17, 2017, 10:21:43 am »

But who institutes the institutions?
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4865 on: February 17, 2017, 11:43:15 am »

Such argument. Wow.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4866 on: February 17, 2017, 11:48:02 am »

Don't be such a Drumpf, help, it is a play on "who watches the watchmen".
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4867 on: February 17, 2017, 11:51:46 am »

I get the reference. I'm just pointing out that it's a non-argument masquerading as one. Rhetorically that's only very slightly higher than calling your opponent a poo-poo head.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4868 on: February 17, 2017, 11:54:51 am »

Considering how often you parade appeals to tradition it's pretty rich to come up with this. Ten pages back you were agreeing with the brexiteers on principle because of your permanent hard-on for anything conservative.  ::)


By the way, care to discuss how the brilliant EU plan to solve the Greek fiasco is working out? You know that they had to be bailed out yet again a couple of weeks ago, because this bullshit austerity we imposed on them doesn't work, right? As pretty much everyone foresaw, tbh
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4869 on: February 17, 2017, 12:06:50 pm »

Considering how often you parade appeals to tradition it's pretty rich to come up with this. Ten pages back you were agreeing with the brexiteers on principle because of your permanent hard-on for anything conservative.  ::)


By the way, care to discuss how the brilliant EU plan to solve the Greek fiasco is working out? You know that they had to be bailed out yet again a couple of weeks ago, because this bullshit austerity we imposed on them doesn't work, right? As pretty much everyone foresaw, tbh

They got bailed out again recently? I saw that the Greek debt crisis fiasco and Grexit was rearing it's head again, but didn't know how it played out.

Isn't there going to be a point where it'd be pointless or impossible to bail them out? This is exactly like Congress kicking the oil barrel (I like to use that instead of 'kicking the can', because it's a lot heavier than a can) over the debt. Though Greece is in a FAR, FAR, worse position than the US.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4870 on: February 17, 2017, 12:11:27 pm »

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Seems pretty typical. They acknowledge here that the EU has been relatively useless in dealing with problems concerning national sovereignty, and suggest handing over more power to them as the solution to the problem of national sovereignty.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4871 on: February 17, 2017, 12:11:44 pm »

Tbh, it's not much different fundamentally from various USA states getting massive yearly subsidies from the federal government. Well, other than that European Union is still sadly not a proper federal institution, and thus is unable to send down the Union police to crack down on Greeks' ridiculous tax evasion practices.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #4872 on: February 17, 2017, 12:26:12 pm »

Tbh, it's not much different fundamentally from various USA states getting massive yearly subsidies from the federal government. Well, other than that European Union is still sadly not a proper federal institution, and thus is unable to send down the Union police to crack down on Greeks' ridiculous tax evasion practices.

Or the Federal military, like when George Washington had to put his foot down over a rebellion (more protest than armed rebellion) over taxes (yeah, I know, the irony).

Though the comparison between the US federal system and the EU federal system breaks down due to the way that they historically started. The US started as a coalition of colonies that, while they had a great deal of autonomy, were never really fully soveriegn. Only Texas (and California for a very brief period before statehood, though I'm not sure what the source is for that) was ever really a soveriegn nation.

Meanwhile, the EU is starting with completely sovereign nations that have differing cultures, languages, politics, etc, which have to give up a small portion of their autonomy. Though they're still vastly more autonomous than a state in the US.
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