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[Erkki]

The truck driver was apparently shot - no official confirmation yet. I'm totally expecting EU Commission to ban illegal firearms any day now.

[Kot]

You mean Russia would assassinate it's own diplomat to further the cause of improving relations with Turkey using the 'your enemy is our enemy' rethoric?

People have been claiming it's a false flag because it... looks too good.
I MEAN, the photos look like screenshoots from a movie (this photo contains blood), just slap some grain on it.

I'm totally expecting EU Commission to ban illegal firearms any day now.

W h a t.

[Lord_lemonpie]

Only officials should operate trucks! They should be stored centrally in secure, guarded, armored warehouses only! The citizens of EU demand security!

Spoiler: Officials... (click to show/hide)

This one's great

[Erkki]

W h a t.

They tried to, among other mad things, ban and collect from EU citizens every non-shotgun semi-automatic weapon including pistols "to protect EU citizens from terrorism". That was literally 3 days after latest Paris attacks, they revived an almost year old proposal to renew firearms directive in a hurry.

It already is difficult to get a legal pistol in Germany... let alone for someone who doesnt even have citizenship. There are so many black market guns and ways to hurt people that its madness.

[smjjames]

You mean Russia would assassinate it's own diplomat to further the cause of improving relations with Turkey using the 'your enemy is our enemy' rethoric?

People have been claiming it's a false flag because it... looks too good.
I MEAN, the photos look like screenshoots from a movie (this photo contains blood), just slap some grain on it.

Yeah, the whole thing looks almost too easy (having just one guard seems unusual, and there weren't other security forces around) and it's just the surrealness of it.

It's also easy to claim conspiracy in the vacuum that is a lack of solid information. I heard on CNN that the Turkish state media claimed that they "found Al-Qaeda books" in his home, but they aren't known for specifically targeting officials. So, I'm taking that with a fistful of salt.

[Kot]

W h a t.

They tried to, among other mad things, ban and collect from EU citizens every non-shotgun semi-automatic weapon including pistols "to protect EU citizens from terrorism". That was literally 3 days after latest Paris attacks, they revived an almost year old proposal to renew firearms directive in a hurry.

It already is difficult to get a legal pistol in Germany... let alone for someone who doesnt even have citizenship. There are so many black market guns and ways to hurt people that its madness.

No, what I mean is "BAN ILLEGAL firearms". If they're already illegal, you can't really ban them more.

And man, don't tell me about how it's difficult to get a legal pistol in Germany, in Poland it's way worse. We're a country with one of most strict gun laws in the world.

[Erkki]

No, what I mean is "BAN ILLEGAL firearms". If they're already illegal, you can't really ban them more.

And man, don't tell me about how it's difficult to get a legal pistol in Germany, in Poland it's way worse. We're a country with one of most strict gun laws in the world.

I was being sarcastic, guns used in crime rarely are acquired legally. So it makes no sence unless you're the EU Commission. They're banning things that are already banned, and doing massive collateral damage among innocent people and their sports.

[martinuzz]

The Pakistani man arrested after the truck assault has been released, there being no evidence of his involvement.

[TempAcc]

Ban illegal trucks.

[Kot]

Ban illegal immigrants.

[TempAcc]

Ban illegal immigrant trucks

[martinuzz]

Meanwhile in the Netherlands, an refugee from Macedonia who had been denied asylum and sent notice to leave the country within 28 days, resisted being questioned, after police got several notifications from the public that a man was acting suspiciously, and punched a police officer in the face. He was then subdued by police using pepperspray, and bystanders helped keep him down.
Until other bystanders noticed that the man's face was turning blue.
He's dead now, Police say, that according to video images, the man died of strangulation. Police deny having put him in a chokehold, implying one of the assisting bystanders did that. On an aside, one of the assisting bystanders turned out to be a police officer in civilian clothing. Police can't comment on whether he was on or off duty at the time.

The National Police has started an investigation into the man's dead.

[DreamerGhost]

You could almost think that police aren't trained to take people down without killing them.

[smjjames]

You could almost think that police aren't trained to take people down without killing them.

*points at the US* You think?

Though the whole 'shoot a gun outta someones hand' or 'disable a running person by shooting them in the leg' is all Hollywood and 99% of people aren't Robin Hood* tier marksmen/women.

*I'm sure the Finns would argue that their legendary snipers** are better than Robin Hood at marksmanship though. And maybe the Swiss, I've heard that they're good as well.

**Guns are in a whole other league*** from bow and arrow anyway.

***Then again, tall tales and all that.

[martinuzz]

One specific chokehold taught in police training was the probable cause of death last year during an arrest that made national news. The chokehold move came under investigation, but that concluded that it need not be removed from training, deeming it non lethal when used correctly. My guess is the problem lies with some folks who like to work out too much, and underestimate their own strenght when applying the technique taught them years ago in training. That, or the stress of the moment clouds their temporal judgement, and they apply it for too long.