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[TheDarkStar]

Hashtag without a cause?

#withoutacause
#nopoint
#protestingforthefunofprotesting

[Arx]

Here, we call that kind of person a 'born-free' - born after or near the end of apartheid. No clear 'the man' to stick it to, but all their role models and people they're told to look up to are struggle heroes.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler: deliberations for brits ps hector you'll enjoy this cos you're verifiably right on things (click to show/hide)

All the following stats 'til the economic bit are from the BBC results pages for the various things.

Link fam
Bbc does loadsa stats

You would've required an extra 634,751 Scots to have voted Remain in order for that to have influenced the result to have the slimmest margin of 2 people, a result everyone would've accepted I imagine.

You forgot that every single poll said Remain was gonna have an easy win because Scotland was gonna have a heavy margin the SNP failed to grasp and the dude votes lmao London demographic would actually bother to show up en masse, but didn't in reality because muh weather

Thus the easy victory turned into absolute carnage, Cameron sleep peasy

It's a bullshit argument anyway. If half as many Scots had voted Yes in 2014, we wouldn't be having this talk. Don't see you saying that's a problem though amirite?

I don't see what's bullshit or a problem about any of that

Scotland in the UK doesn't benefit individual Englanders or Londoners all that much, but politically the fiscal pricetag is more than worth it. I'm biased obv, I could scarcely say I'm British if half of Britain clay flew into the sun without us

Due to the quirks of the Barnett formula - which is funny since Westminster could literally decide tomorrow to say "fuck that shit" and it would be entirely legal - pretty much any change in spending in England is going to affect funding for every other UK nation. However indirectly, English matters are going to affect them.

I've no problem with that, I've a problem with them having both advantages and complaining about it :P

Instead of being sensible and setting up a separate English parliament though - like the aforementioned Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish ones, which deal solely with matters in those nations - the Tories have decided the best way to deal with this issue is to make non-English MPs second-class by denying them access to matters which solely affect England in the British parliament. Fantastic.

I think we can all be happy that the Osbornites have been removed by cheeky May

I like the way you set this out, failing to mention that the SNP only stood in 59 constituencies in Scotland - meaning they had access to an electorate of 4,094,784, of whom 71.1% voted, a little over 2.9m, of whom ~50% voted for the SNP - whereas UKIP stood in 624 seats, having access to... uh... more of the electorate.

The SNP could've chosen to stand in every seat across the UK, they didn't lol because there'd be no point, they appeal exclusively to Scottish nationalists by strategy

But then that's not how the system works, is it? It's the results in the individual constituencies that matter. The Tories received 37% of the overall vote and received just over 50% of the seats, and a majority in parliament. They won 1 seat in Scotland. Kingmakers in their own fuckin' right there eh?

Quite a surprising result considering how every poll said it was going to be neck and neck Labour-Tory till the end with SNP being kingmaker; Ed Miliband was just that overwhelmingly shit, and Osborne to his credit actually delivered the impossible

Then we could consider that Scotland has voted Labour every year since 1959 until the last GE in 2015. Their status as kingmaker meant there was an unprecedented 56 year long Labour reign, right? Oh wait, Labour were only ever in power when England voted for them. Right, sorry.

1964 - UKexSco 10,932,947 to Tory and Unionist parties in England | 10,922,141 to Labour, translated to 273 seats Tory-Union and 273 seats Labour
W Scotland, 1,283,667 labour, 1,069,695 Tory&Unionist | +24 seats Tory and +44 seats Labour
Result: Scotland was decisive Kingmaker with just over 200k Scots swinging everything.

1966 - I realized tallying vote count and seat count would double the time needed to go through every election, so now only seat counts
UKexSco 230 Tory-Union | 318 Labour
Scotland adds net +26 Labour seats
Result: Scotland was not Kingmaker, adding to an already landslide Labour victory.

1970 - UKexSco 299 Tory | 243 Labour
Scotland adds net +19 Labour seats
Result: Scotland was not Kingmaker, dampening a landslide Tory victory.

Feb 1974 - UKexSco 275 Tory (Unionist parties withdraw support) | 261 Labour
Scotland adds net +20 Labour seats
Result: Scotland narrowly turns Tory victory into Labour victory, however the result is hung parliament.

Oct 1974 - UKexSco 260 Tory | 278 Labour
Scotland adds net +25 Labour seats
Result: Scotland allows Labour to form majority Parliament by 4.

1979 - UKexSco 319 Tory | 224 Labour
Scotland adds net +20 Labour seats
Result: landslide Tory victory, Scotland has little effect. <- So begins Ministerial service of Margaret Thatcher

1983 - UKexSco 376 Tory | 168 Labour
Scotland adds net +20 Labour seats
Result: Catastrophic defeat for Labour, Scotland has little effect. <- One of the most one sided electoral results in British history

1987 - UKexSco 385 Tory | 179 Labour
Scotland adds net +40 Labour seats
Result: Serious defeat for Labour, but the gap is narrowing. Anti-Tory sentiment reaches all time high under Thatcher due to deindustrialization, market liberalization and crackdown of union power.

1992 - UKexSco 325 Tory | 222 Labour | 11 Libdem
Scotland adds net +38 Labour seats, +9 Libdem +3 SNP
Result: Prepare your anuses for Blair, nevertheless the Tories still hold majority. Opinion polls all said Labour were expected to win, meaning that in all times always ignore polls.

1997 - UkexSco 165 Tory | 362 Labour | 36 Libdem
Scotland adds +56 Labour, +0 Tory, +10 Libdem, +6 SNP
Result: Absolutely devastating defeat for the Tories, marks the Labour ascendancy <- Champion of the Blood God begins ministration

2001 - UKexSco 165 Tory | 357 Labour | 42 Libdem
Scotland adds net +54 Labour, +10 Libdem, +5 SNP
Result: Tories still doing miserably under Blair, Scotland has little effect on landslide Labour victory

2005 - UKexSco 197 Tory | 315 Labour | 51 Libdem
Scotland adds net +39 Labour, +11 Libdem, +6 SNP
Result: Still landslide victory for Labour, notably though the Libdems begin clawing their way up

2010 - UKexSco 305 Tory | 217 Labour | 46 Libdem
Scotland adds net +40 Labour, +11 Libdem, +6 SNP
Result: Scotland handed a Labour-Libdem coalition victory, but the Libdems swallowed the pork pill and instead formed a coalition with Tories. Libdems would make further CRITICAL ERRORS which would kill their political clout for the forseeable future.

2015 - UKexSco 329 Tory | 231 Labour | 7 Libdem
Scotland adds +56 SNP, +1 Labour, +1 Tory, +1 Libdem
Result: The milipede destroys Labour in one fell swoop with his cheeky socialism. Labour party responds by attempting to cut off Union influence, that results in the Unions taking control of the party and selecting the uber socialist. Checkmate scrubs. SNP takes over Scotland, Scottish labour collapses. Without Scottish Labour, Labour becomes incapable of holding Tories to serious opposition.

2016 - EURO EBIN BANTS REFERENDUM
UKexSco&Lon
14,879,188 Leave | 12,216,531 Remain
2,662,657 net lead for Leave, crushing victory

Factoring in London
+ 750,287 net gain for Remain out of 3,776,751 valid votes cast. London devastatingly underperformed based upon its prediction, personally I was biting my nails as they read out the London boroughs - and then I realized, the dude weed vote doesn't actually vote. Students btfo

Factoring in Scotland
+ 642,869 net gain for Remain out of 2,679,513 valid votes cast. Final result: Decisive victory for Leave, leaving no room for challenge.

It is rather notable that during this election day, storms hit London and Scotland whilst the rest of the UK was sunny. God willed Leave confirmed (my favourite theory is that the Russians deployed a weather machine to tank the Remain voters' morale).
One of the things that is pretty neat is that now that the campaigning is over, we get a lot of the news that wasn't allowed to disseminate because it would've hurt the remain campaign. My favourite is that in June, Labour canvassers were beginning to worry that based off of their impression on the ground level, a large number of their voters were switching to leave. They didn't tell anyone obviously because to allow it to go public could be a self-fulfilling prophecy (humans are weird), but it does help to explain why all the polls predicted a safe Remain lead and even until the end predicted narrow Remain victory - heads in the sand. I love that polls were giving 55-37 lead to Remain, ahahahahaha

Result: Dude weed lmao vote and 1 million Scots voting to Leave stopped Londonistan and Scotland from tipping the scales
Had London increased their share of existing votes by 10% that would've been a, 1,510,701 net from London and with Scotland it's even funnier the disparate nature of what is reported and what is. 2015 Scotland gives 2,815,355 votes to SNP (pro-Remain), Labour (pro-Remain) Tories (pro-Remain) and Libdem (pro-Remain), but Scotland provided only the net +640,000 Remain.

Overall though, counting the red, blue and yellow, that's 11 cases where Scotland had little effect. 6 of the red cases have a Scottish majority opposing the victorious party, 5 of the red cases have a Scottish majority supporting the victorious party. 3 blue cases where Scotland swung the tings, one yellow where they would've were it not for INFINITE FRACTAL SAD CLEGGS (thus my issue with Oxbridge career politicians - no one likes them).
8 where they got what they wanted, 7 they didn't, but looking at the numbers; their propensity to be Kingmaker is directly proportional to the competence of the British left wing to be able to stage opposition to the Tories. Under charismatic champions like Blair, there is simply no question, under the Milipede, there is no chance. Competence escapes Labour for quite some time, so allow me to concede I am wrong - Scotland is not Kingmaker under normal incompetent circumstances, and opinion pollers who suggested that they were just like sexy politics xD

Let's look at things as a whole, though. There were 46,420,413 registered voters in the UK in 2015, for 650 parliament seats.
Scotland 9.07% of the seats, for their 8.8% share of the electorate, England has 82% of seats for their 83.59% of the electorate, Wales get 6.15% seats for their 4.9%, and N. Ireland 2.7% for 2.66%. Things seem to be alright in terms of proportion of votes.
English democratic will still outstrips that of the other three though. Still think Scotland is the kingmaker?

Wales - 40 seats, 2,270,272 electorate = 56,756 per seat
Scotland - 59 seats, 3,987,112 electorate = 67,578 per seat
Northern Ireland - 18 seats, 1,260,955 electorate = 70,053 per seat
England w/o Greater London - 460 seats, 33,556,894 electorate = 72,949 per seat
Greater London - 73 seats, 5,424,768 electorate = 74,311 per seat

Yeah on review it seems all right, Wales is a bit imba but a Scot being worth 110% more than a Londoner is in accordance with reality (I'll leave it up to you to guess if I'm joking)!

wtf r u smoking i want sum

Smoking drugs is immoral and haram

Er... so does England. And N. Ireland. And Wales. And, if you'll excuse me, most of the effin' world.
What's your point? Scotland does it worse than the rUK?

Nah, that the SNP's plan to make the SNP into an oil economy has a serious flaw: Scotland's economy is too small to absorb the shock of placing their entire economy in the hands of one thing, it happened with Panama and it would've happened again if the SNP's plan succeeded

The Tories were elected in 2010 when they said they were going to make massive cuts to gub'ment spending, while the SNP made no such promises, indeed quite the opposite, so you're comparing apples to oranges a wee bit there.

SNP spending muh shekels to pay for their public spending fam
It's not a comparison it's a direct line of supply; wouldn't care if the SNP weren't so salty about taking muh shekels :P

wishful thinking leave me to muh fantasy
alternatively: link

If I'd linked to UKIP website in the Indyref none of the Euros would've given me any credence
Sturgeon's face is right on that link :P
Although the creation of an oil wealth fund is fucking sexy and should be adopted by all parties who aren't communists

Scotland having access to that trillion squid would be quite beneficial to them in the long run, I imagine.

Where's this trillion quid? Dang, UK is sorted for life

Could invest it in anything they bloody wanted. Like not paying for those lovely nuclear subs in the Clyde.

A third of all UK taxes are paid for by London, generating more tax revenue than the next 36 largest cities combined. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad carrying here, that means having a deterrent towards being blown up via nuclear holocaust costs London 23 days of taxes for a complete renewal, employing 5,000 in Barrow-in Furness Boatyard in addition to 3,500 RN personnel, 1,700 contractors and 1,600 civilian employees in Clyde.
Scotland doesn't pay for them, London does

Unfortunately folk shat it in 2014, so they can wave that goodbye.

And Gordon Brown sold my gold shekels, yet Scotland keeps voting for leftists too

Thank you for so succinctly making my point.

Sweet, so we both agree on much

(in muslim culture, hitting someone with a shoe is the worst insult you can make. That, and shoe rhymes with Haiku)

Let me tell you about Cossacks

Spoiler: Cossacks are busy writing insults to Putin. Turks can wait (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: I've been too happy to shitpost so have more cossacks in meantime (click to show/hide)

I see USA movements have already started to occupy post-Brexit Britain.

I was laughing my kekles off at these muppets, no one in London gets them. LONDON, not just the UK, even Londonians think they're stupid. Prolly starting from that moment when some US police officer kills some armed criminal and in response they decide to stab a British police officer in the UK...?

Brit police are the nicest in the world to boot :|
I do love the joke, Britain invented the modern police, China invented the secret police

Don't argue with the bot. It's not funny.

Oi m8 you buy kitchen yes?

[Loud Whispers]

Jesus christ, that colour. No wonder the Lib Dems are doing so terribly. We'd all go blind if they started to make a comeback.

Spoiler: I'm not hearing enough praising (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: I'll say (click to show/hide)

For all your talk about Red Ed, I think you're brushing aside (if only by omission) how unpopular Corbyn is among the general public. If Ed put the Labour Party in the coffin, Jez is the one who nailed that coffin shut and threw it in the Thames.
Which is funny, really - a lot of Corbyn's policies would be very popular. Nationalisation of the railways, increased minimum wage, requiring employees to be on the board of stock-exchange companies; people eat that shit up. It's just that his more bombastic policies/statements of opinion (Falklands, nukes, immigration) are so, so unpopular, and his personal manner so unpleasant, that he stands absolutely no chance of ever getting in, despite all the starry-eyed Bec De Corbynistas rushing down to sign up for the Labour party after school lets out at 3pm.
Maybe this will be my Nate Bronze moment and in May 2020 I'll be having to hold my hands up as I watch Jezza step into Number 10, but I'll take my chances.

You gotta have sympathy for Corbyn cos he's the closest UK analogue to Trump we've got

Everyone politician within his party and a good number without fought to stop him, are still fighting to stop him, have still failed to stop him, and he's crashing this system with no survivors

Particularly considering the ridiculous shit they have to put up with. The people currently moaning about the police using spitting hoods on suspects have never had to actually arrest anyone, or clean up the back of a police van twice a week after some drunken lout has inevitably pissed/shat all over it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Oh no, get this, the officer wasn't just stabbed cos of what happened in Murrica, the officer was stabbed because they tried taking some lad's rave machine

The Metropolitan Police says some of its officers were attacked when they tried to "deal" with a sound system which had been set up.

Total bellends

A breakaway group stormed a nearby branch of McDonald’s, causing terrified staff to flee downstairs as dozens of teenagers leapt over counters to clear the racks of food.

FREE SHIT

Riot vans blocked off Oxford Street to prevent the crowd from spilling into the world-famous shopping district.

Rofl, priorities

Two officers were rushed to hospital during the melee, one with stab wounds the other suffering head injuries after being struck by a bottle.

Sometimes I wonder how this shit isn't some false flagging intended to make arming our police palatable, but reading the twitter posts of the ravers and seeing their conduct on video was rather illustrating.
Also lol

“It was really intense and there were groups shouting ‘Black lives matter’ and things like that. It seemed like a rebound from what is happening in America. Police pushed them out of the park but they all gathered under Marble Arch.”

I actually looked up whether our police were gonna get armed, and turns out yeah 600 police are gonna get armed, though in response to yurop's isis fanclubs more than anything

Spoiler: there'll be less of this (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: more of this (click to show/hide)

Why do Cossacks always look like pirates, despite a total lack of anything nautical?

Perhaps it's the happy laughing faces.

DO WHAT YOU WANT COS A PIRATE COSSACK IS FREE

Rather grueling to read of how they got bolshevikd though
Damn communists ruin everything awesome

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Why do Cossacks always look like pirates, despite a total lack of anything nautical?

Tell that to Ottomans. Cossacks were damn good pirates in the Black Sea and enjoyed doing raids on Ottoman coastal cities.

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Corbyn rekt Owen Smith
Round two gonna be Corbyn vs May
Also lol no wonder corby gets so much flak for israel, he can't seem to get a single picture taken without islam floating above his shoulder

[martinuzz]

The French police had to use violence in the arrest of 3 women linked to the car filled with gas canisters that was found in Paris a few days ago.
The women, who were already on the radar of intelligence services because of radicalization, attacked the police. One police officer was stabbed, after whih the police opened fire, wounding one of the women, after which they could be arrested.

Last sunday night, a pub owner warned the police about an abandoned car without license plates that was standing at a no parking zone with flashing lights, 5 gas canisters in the back seat, and arab documents on the dashboards.
However, no detonation mechanism has been found. Police spokesmen say they think that it was a dry training run, practicing for an actual attack.

The car led the police to three women aged 39, 23 and 19. The car was owned by the youngest woman's parents. The three were on the radar for radicalization, and 'planning something violent'. A heavy manhunt resulted in the police tracking the woman down to Boussy-Saint-Antoine, a small village near Paris.
When approached by the police, one of the women drew a knife and stabbed a police officer in the shoulder, after which she was shot.

[martinuzz]

The French ministry of Internal Affairs reports that interrogation has revealed that the 3 women were part of a group that intended to attack gare de Lyon, one of Paris' larger train stations.

The youngest had written a letter swearing allegiance to IS, and had intended to travel to Syria after the attack. All train stations have been placed on high alert, but it looks like this one was thwarted, as it seems the attack was planned to be carried out yesterday (thursday).

In total, 7 people were arrested in the case. Apart from the 3 women, two couples aged 34 and 29, and 27 and 26 were arrested on thursday. The two arrested men are brothers.

[Loud Whispers]

On that note, I was rather surprised to find the front cover of the spectator was a swedish flag on a hand grenade, simply titled 'how not to welcome refugees'

Tfw your shitposting is 3 current years ahead of msm

[Sheb]

With Britain out, France and Germany are announcing plan for increased defense cooperation. Mostly a common headquarter for join EU operation (instead of the rotation HQ used now), better pooling of support assets such as strategic airlift capabilities and join procurement of some stuff like cargo planes and drone. Good step overall, but it'll be interesting to see if and how it is accepted: it kinda overlap with some existing NATO structure (SAC comes to mind.) Plans for a EU border guard are also in the work.

It's funny because I was just reading a friend's master thesis about Belgian diplomacy during the building of the Union in 1958-1963, and a big fear of Belgium and the Netherlands was an hegemonic Franco-German duo that would undermine NATO if defense discussion were to take place between the Six. Getting the UK within the European framework was seen by the Low Countries as a way to counteract the Franco-German and make sure Europe wouldn't concurrence NATO (The Dutch position was essentially "Either you let the UK in or you let us create EU-wide institution so we don't end up as French protectorate".

[Helgoland]

Sweet.

Also: Update your sig, man. It's kinda dated.

[martinuzz]

Yep, yep. Economically, the Netherlands and Belgium will feel the Brexit the most of all EU countries as well, because strong trade ties and history. Unless ofcourse all banks move from London to Amsterdam and Scotland joins Belgium.

[Sheb]

Yup. Still, it's really fun how history kinda repeat itself half a century later. The Dutch are saying they don't think it's time to integrate defense, while the Belgian will go with it, just as P-H Spaak used to serve as an in-between between Luns and De Gaulle.

Overall, I think it make sense though. Integrating the strategic, intelligence and support part of the armed force will significantly increase their efficiencies, without having to deal with the political headache of preventing the French from blowing up Africans (or of forcing the Swedes to blow Africans to please the French).


Edit: Nonsense, my sig is fine! The fact that mid-august is long past doesn't change the fact that I was temp-banned.

[martinuzz]

Meanwhile, in Dutch cities, mayors are protesting and demanding more refugees, so they won't need to see the refugee centers they managed to convince angry mobs to not set on fire, with blood, sweat and tears, be shut down by authorities for redundancy.

[Sheb]

Why don't you lease them to Belgium for our prisoners? 

Edit: Talking to my friends whose thesis I was harping about: "Well, the Dutch are always against everything, that's who they are". I'm afraid he's turning Dutchophobe to please his fleming in-laws. :p