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[Loud Whispers]

Tfw BBC political islam committee is on right now

*EDIT
Ed Husein btfo Yasmin on terrorism and dictatorship
Chinese and North Koreans don't blow themselves up cos they don't have any teachings which say explosive martyrdom = heaven

[sprinkled chariot]

Spoiler: how all those officers managed to fail? (click to show/hide)

BTW,  Erdogan is aproaching Stalin's level of army purging here. Can we say goodbye to a strong Turkish armed forces (on other hand... Are forces that can't capture two cities in their own country strong?)

May be the reason is, that they were not that brutal type, which can roll over protesting crowd with tanks?

[martinuzz]

EU chief of foreign relations, Frederica Mogherini made it official. She told Turkey that "No counrty can join the EU that reintroduces death penalty."

Kerry, meanwhile, has stated that he has not recieved any formal request to extradite Gulen. Erdogan had asked the US to extradite Gulen, but Kerry says that that does not count as a formal request, and told premier Yilderim that there are official channels for such a request. He added that "Turkey needs to produce evidence, not accusations".

Premier Yildirim has responded, saying that "We are very disappointed that the American government asks for evidence, whilst our democratic government is under attack. At this point, we could even question our friendship".

Exit Turkey from NATO when? US still thinks their nukes are safe on Turkish bases yes?

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

EU chief of foreign relations, Frederica Mogherini made it official. She told Turkey that "No counrty can join the EU that reintroduces death penalty."

Kerry, meanwhile, has stated that he has not recieved any formal request to extradite Gulen. Erdogan had asked the US to extradite Gulen, but Kerry says that that does not count as a formal request, and told premier Yilderim that there are official channels for such a request. He added that "Turkey needs to produce evidence, not accusations".

Premier Yildirim has responded, saying that "We are very disappointed that the American government asks for evidence, whilst our democratic government is under attack. At this point, we could even question our friendship".

Exit Turkey from NATO when?

[Kot]

"We are very disappointed that the American government asks for evidence"

POE'S LAW ARHGHGHHGHGHGHHGHG, AND THIS TIME IN REAL WORLD.

[Loud Whispers]

"whilst our government is under attack"

[DJ]

I wonder how Turkey exiting NATO would work out for their relations with Russia. Are there any ethnic Russians around Bosphorus that would secede from Turkey so they could join Russia?

[Orange Wizard]

The Oppressed Russian Minority exists wherever Putin casts his gaze

[Loud Whispers]

I wonder how Turkey exiting NATO would work out for their relations with Russia. Are there any ethnic Russians around Bosphorus that would secede from Turkey so they could join Russia?

50,000 Russians live in Instanbul, Ankara and Malatya

So not really no, unless Putin wants to gib Constantinople to Greece, or give it to Kurds

[MarcAFK]

Forget Martel, we need Constantine.

[Sergarr]

I wonder how Turkey exiting NATO would work out for their relations with Russia. Are there any ethnic Russians around Bosphorus that would secede from Turkey so they could join Russia?

50,000 Russians live in Instanbul, Ankara and Malatya

So not really no, unless Putin wants to gib Constantinople to Greece, or give it to Kurds

Who even needs Constantinople? It's full of Erdogan's fanatic supporters, better just avoid it.

Forming Kurdistan from the southern/eastern parts of Turkey + northern Syria & Iraq is a much better affair, since it has de-facto international (i.e. NATO) support.

[DJ]

Well, Milosevic once famously claimed that any land where any Serb bones are buried is Serbian clay, and Putin seems to have a similar stance, so 50k Russians is plenty. And controlling the gates of the Black Sea would be a huuuge deal for Russia, so I'm confident he'd find a reason to invade Turkey if it lost NATO protection.

[Kot]

Well, Milosevic once famously claimed that any land where any Serb bones are buried is Serbian clay

God is a Serb, my friend.

[Antioch]

Spoiler: how all those officers managed to fail? (click to show/hide)

BTW,  Erdogan is aproaching Stalin's level of army purging here. Can we say goodbye to a strong Turkish armed forces (on other hand... Are forces that can't capture two cities in their own country strong?)

It's still only a minority of the army high command.

Coups almost always only succeed if a majority of top military commanders supports it or the opponents are instantly pacified.

[Sergarr]

Looks like USA is not amused with Turkey's purging antics:

“NATO also has a requirement with respect to democracy,” Kerry told reporters after European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini warned Turkey not to execute coup plotters. She noted that countries with the death penalty cannot join the European Union, as Turkey, a NATO member, has sought to do.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said that while NATO will be watching Turkey carefully, “it’s too soon to say that their membership is at risk.”

Ohoho.